Claims, that also concern Brit-Am, Against British-Israel Refuted! (31 March, 2015, 11 Nisan, 5775)
Peter Salemi <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Peter Salemi is a well-known writer on British Israel issues. He often quotes Steven Collins and Yair Davidiy alongside insights of his own.
hi yair what do you think about these sites
it would be good to refute these claims dont you think
(a) DNA Versus Brit-Am and Company
The first link
seems to concern someone who had issues with H.W. Armstrong.
Usually these people seem to be libertarian non-believers. How they got involved with HWA in the first place is a mystery.
Anyway, this aspect of the message should not involve Brit-Am.
The site comprises pages of an article,
DNA Refutes British Israelism
The Scientific Proof is Final
It is inaccurate. It says for instance that Palestinian Jews are J.
Who are Palestinian Jews?
I never hear heard of or met any and I have been in the Land of Israel since 1974!
Anyway Jews in general are only about 30% J (usually J2) though the Cohanim are about 70% J.
He uses outdated sources. He claims for instance that Jews and Arabs have the same ancestry. There is some similarity but Jews are closer to Kurds, Armenians, and Turks of Turkey than to Arabs.
The article claims:
There are at least eight ways to prove British Israelism false:
1. DNA proves that the United States and British Commonwealth are not lost tribes of Israel;
2. Scripture shows that there are no 10 lost tribes of Israel -- the New Testament shows descendants of 6 of the tribes;
3. History does not support British Israelism;
4. Archeology and archeologists oppose British Israelism;
5. Linguistics show incompatibilities between Western Europeans and Israelites;
6. Sociology demonstrates that there is no compatibility between Western Europeans and Israelites;
7. Failed prophecies prove that British Israelism is a lie and produces false prophets;
8. Results -- "fruit" -- of British Israelism provide no positive outcomes and lead to oppression in a cult.
1. DNA as commonly understood poses problems for advocates of Brit-Am type findings. The subject needs to be worked on.
DNA in our opinion has not proven a case against us. Nevertheless it may be that we need to push harder on this issue.
2. Scripture shows DEFINITEDLY that there are 10 lost tribes of Israel. The Jewish People comprised mainly the Tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi as well as minority numbers of all the other Tribes. This explains the occasional mention of someone amongst the Jews coming from these tribes in non-Hebrew Bible sources.
3. History when properly understood supports Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations.
4. Archeology when properly understood supports Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations.
5. Linguistics show linkages between at least some Western Europeans and Israelites.
6. Sociology, Current Affairs, and numerous other factors demonstrate a potential compatibility between Western Europeans and the Jewish People.
7. Biblical prophecies are proved through Brit-Am proofs.
8. Belief in Brit-Am/Hebrew nations provides a Pathway Forward for all True believers of Scripture.
We are not a cult. On the contrary.
We do however believe that we have merited to open up an additional viewpoint that is correct and worthwhile.
(b) Specific Proofs together with Statistic Probability
The second link,
This is from Ambassador Reports. They have been around for a long time.
They seem to see a life mission in attacking HWA and offshoots.
A Foundation of Sand. The Lie of British Israel
[author not given as far as we can see.]
This site looks good but it seems to move awfully slow.
He deals with certain British Israel arguments some of which are similar to our own while others are not.
We have our own list of Proofs.
Some of our proofs are very specific such as Tribal Characteristics and the correspondence of Tribal Names with Present-day nations etc.
Other proofs are based on statistical profitability.
This may be illustrated by the Parable of the Red-Haired man.
We say that John Smith is the same person as J. B. Smith.
Our arguments are:
(1 They have similar names.
The Skeptics reply: Many People have such names.
(2 They both have red hair
The Skeptics reply: Many People have red hair.
(3 They both wear spectacles.
The Skeptics reply: Many People wear spectacles.
and on and on along the same lines.
The correspondences are so many that the onus should be on the opposition to prove that they are not the same person rather than on us.
Taking our Specific Proofs together with those based on Statistic Probability together we have an extremely strong case.