Ten Tribes Studies (17 November, 2013, Kislev 14, 5774)
1. Answers to Questions on several issues including Ephraim becoming Great before Manasseh,
and a Multitude of Nations (Genesis 48:19).
2. Extracts Concerning Pronunciation of the Holy Name.
3. Douglas Augustine: Joseph Began the Admixture with Foreign Women
1. Answers to Questions on several issues including Ephraim becoming Great before Manasseh, and a Multitude of Nations (Genesis 48:19).
Jim Graves wrote:
Hello. From my telephone computer, all your links display except one. But they go to the top of one page and won't scroll. Could it be a deliberately sent virus? Also, the Creator's name is not God. That's His office title. YirmeYahu 16: 21 and they shall know that my name is [the ALMIGHTY]. Those knowing this, yet persisting with tradition, ignore His 4th commandment, by making His name of no affect. [the ALMIGHTY], He is God. Genesis 48: 19 plainly shows Manasseh received the pronunciation of his blessing first, before Ephraim. And history plainly shows Manasseh received the fulfillment of their blessing first, when the British peoples became world policeman before Ephraim. Now, a state is a country is a nation. And 50 is a multitude. 6 isn't. The prophecy did not say Ephraim shall come to rule over a multitude of gentile nations. The prophecy stated Ephraim shall become a multitude of nations (see Brown-Driver-Briggs, H4393. Multitude). Great is what Manasseh was prophesied to become. Great Britain. Great Covenant man. Multitude of nations is what Ephraim was prophesied to become. United States. Each with it's separate constitution and three-columned government. Ephraim was the 13th and last son born to national inheritance in national Israel. 13 is the ubiquitous number of the USA. But all Israel is falling. Soon all Israel will reap the results of their sinful ways...death. Death of their nations. The Trojan horse has dispersed it's troops. ...
(a) Links of the web-site
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(b) Name of the Creator
Also, the Creator's name is not God. That's His office title. YirmeYahu 16: 21 and they shall know that my name is [the ALMIGHTY]. Those knowing this, yet persisting with tradition, ignore His 4th commandment, by making His name of no affect. [the ALMIGHTY], He is God.
This is a mistaken application of the Name of God
The Holy Name of God
See also item (2) below, Extracts Concerning Pronunciation of the Holy Name.
(c) Ephraim Before Manasseh
Genesis 48: 19 plainly shows Manasseh received the pronunciation of his blessing first, before Ephraim. And history plainly shows Manasseh received the fulfillment of their blessing first, when the British peoples became world policeman before Ephraim.
19 But his father refused, and said, 'I know, my son, I know; he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great. Nevertheless, his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his offspring shall become a multitude of nations.'
Manasseh was to become a great nation AFTER Ephraim.
The expression referring to Manasseh "he also shall become" implies something coming later.
Also we have the analysis of the placement of the arms by the Bnei Yissachar (Tzvi Elimelech Shapira of Dinov, 1784-1840).
Why the USA is Manasseh: A Summation
##Why did Jacob not command that Manasseh be placed on his left side and Ephraim on his right?
Why did Jacob have to cross his hands over?
The truth is that Manasseh is the firstborn!
This is why it says "GUIDING HIS HAND WITTINGLY" (Genesis 48:14). He did not change Manasseh over to the left side) for in truth Manasseh is the firstborn and the most important but he put Ephraim before Manasseh concerning the chronological precedence##.
This Sage is saying that: Manasseh remained on the right hand side of Jacob. He fulfilled the destiny of Jacob and expressed more the inner being of Jacob. The left hand of Jacob was on the head of Manasseh. The left hand is the weaker hand and the slower one. It indicated that Manasseh would be slower to reach fruition.
Fishel Mael ("Hashevetim" p.490) based on the above and other sources comments:
## ...Jacob however guided his hands wittingly to indicate that the greatness of Manasseh would not be revealed so soon...Jacob agreed only that Manasseh remain at his right-hand side for he is destined to complete the quality ...of Jacob himself in the building of the Third Temple##.
The USA is Manasseh. Britain is Ephraim. The USA became great AFTER Britain.
It is worth noting that NEITHER of the two sources above knew anything (as far as we know) about the USA or Britain being either Ephraim or Manasseh.
They simply took the Bible as it is written and came to the same conclusion as we have.
This makes our case evens stronger.
(d) A Multitude of Nations or Not?
Now, a state is a country is a nation. And 50 is a multitude. 6 isn't. The prophecy did not say Ephraim shall come to rule over a multitude of gentile nations. The prophecy stated Ephraim 'shall become' a multitude of nations (see Brown-Driver-Briggs, H4393. Multitude).
The English Translations for Genesis 48: 19 indeed usually say,
# and his offspring shall become a multitude of nations. #
Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, The Living Torah, translates it as saying, "full-fledged nations"
In a footnote he gives other suggestions,
(Saadia). Or, 'famous nations;' 'many nations' (Targum Yonathan; Ibn Ezra); 'world-filling nations' (Rashi; Radak); 'rulers of nations' (Onkelos); 'destroyers of nations' (Lekach Tov); or 'famous among nations.'
The Hebrew says "Maoi Ha-Goyim" literally "the fullness of the Nations".
Concerning Genesis 48:19 as a whole we gave a lengthy and interesting explanation.
As for the expression ins question, we said:
"HIS SEED SHALL BECOME A MULTITUDE OF NATIONS": In Hebrew "malo hagoim" or literally the fullness of nations.
Onkelos translates this as saying that his seed will rule over the nations.
Iben Ezra says it means that many peoples will emerge from him.
Brit-Am understands the expression to mean that other nations will be dependent upon him for their very existence.
Why do you and others like yourself not use our Brit-Am Commentaries to the Bible?
They are user-friendly, intended for you, and reliable.
2. Extracts Concerning Pronunciation of the Holy Name.
Queries on the Holy Name. Question about the Prohibition to utter the Ineffable Name
This brings us to the question what does the four-lettered ineffable name mean?
No-one really knows but it is obviously comprised of elements from the verb "to be".
An approximate translation might perhaps render it as, HE WHO IS. This also fits in with the context and the other names and attribution such as I WILL BE etc.
We are forbidden to pronounce the name but nevertheless we should hallow it, take cognizance of it, and consider its meanings, as you have done.
Holy Name? Uncovering the Misconception Behind Attempts to Utter the Sacred Name of the Almighty
Here is the secret
There is NO KNOWN CORRECT PRONUNCIATION OF THE HOLY NAME!!!
13 Then Moses said to God, 'Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, 'What is His name?' what shall I say to them?'
14 And God said to Moses, 'I AM WHO I AM.' And He said, 'Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.''
15 Moreover God said to Moses, 'Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: 'The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.'
Exodus 3: 15 Moreover God said to Moses, 'Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: 'The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.'
Note the expression, "This is My name forever" (Exodus 3:15).
It says "forever" or does it? really?
In the Hebrew text the word translated here as "forever" is written as "Le-elam". This means "to be Hidden". If we were reading the verse AS IT IS WRITTEN we would read it, "This is My name TO BE HIDDEN" i.e. at some time in the future it would need to be hidden.
That is what is says when read LITERALLY!!!
Rabbi Yaakov Zvi Mecklenburg ("Ha-Ketav ve-HaKabalah", 1839) notes the combinations in Exodus 3:15 This is My name forever [OR This is my name to be hidden], and this is My memorial to all generations. The words translated as "to all generations" in Hebrew ("le-dor dor") actually may be understood as saying "according to each generation". In other words, This is my name forever BUT it is to be hidden in certain generations. This is what the Hebrew says.
We cannot know how the Name of God was pronounced because we do not know for sure how all the consonants were pronounced. In addition to that we have no idea what the vowels were. In the future we shall know. At the present we do not. This is how Divine Providence wants it. This is what was indicated would happen by the Bible. One should not try to pronounce the Holy Name because the Biblical Injunction is against it. Do not go against the Bible.
Name Hidden. The Ineffable Name of the Almighty and the Injunction not to attempt to Pronounce it
The four-letter name of God as it stands at present cannot be pronounced. It is forbidden. Even if we wanted to we would not know how since it can be pronounced in 10,000 or even 100,000 different ways. We do not know how the consonants were enunciated and we have NO IDEA were the vowels were!! Claims of different personalities to know how to pronounce the name are based on a misunderstanding of the Hebrew text.
Two different renditions of the name are being referred to:
This is My name forever [to be hidden], and this is My memorial to all generations (Exodus 3:15).
The verse says that one of the names is to be hidden. This is the name denoting the Essence of God.
The other name is to be retained as "by which I shall be remembered" referring to attributes in general.
This explanation was given us by the Sages who after the Jews returned from Babylon decided what books would be included in the Bible and what not and what interpretation difficult passages would have. This assembly included Prophets in its ranks. Their decisions are what made the Bible. They are a continuation of the Bible. If one does not believe in the Bible then that is another problem.
God exists. God who exists is the God of our fathers. HE is the God Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
This is how HE reveals HIMSELF to the world, through Israel.
History of the Name
When the Name was recalled and Why it is no longer Done so.
The Northern Ten Tribes centered on Samaria must have had a tradition that the name was not to be pronounced as it was spelled. They also did not usually spell the four-letter name as it is in the Bible but used a shortened form "Yaho" (Ahituv).
Eventually the Ten Tribes shall return and re-unite with Judah. There will be a rule of the Messiah and the Name shall once again be in use.
9 And the LORD shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be,
"The Lord is one,"
And His name one.
Using the name had always entailed a degree of risk.
Someone who cursed using the name was to be put to death, as we find in the case of the man with an Egyptian father and a mother from the Tribe of Dan who was
executed by stoning (Leviticus 24:10-15, 23).
"You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain" (Exodus 20:7).
Using the Name of God had positive and minus aspects to it from the beginning.
Eventually it was decided that the minus aspects had become greater than the positive ones.
The Name of God is in the Bible. Historically it was used, then its use was restricted. At present its use is forbidden. In the Messianic Age it shall be permitted. Historically circumstances explain what happened. Biblical Passages show us that the Almighty inserted the option in the Bible to stop using the name if circumstances warranted it. No-one knows how to pronounce the name today. Attempts to do so may be harmful. The Bible does not want us to harm ourselves. On the contrary, God requires us to do as well for ourselves and for others as we can.
3. Douglas Augustine: Joseph Began the Admixture with Foreign Women
RE: Brit-Am Now no. 2158 Ten Tribes Studies
(5. Hosea: foreign children. We cannot rely on our ancestry alone
Dear Mr. Davidiy:
I found this to be very interesting. I agree that ancestry is not the sole determinative factor and that "faith in the G-d of Israel, learning the Bible, and striving to do the right thing" are more important ... It seems almost inevitable that there would be mixing with non-Israelite women (and men) during the exile. In fact, doesn't this trace back to Joseph who had an Egyptian wife? This makes the two most prominent tribes of the Northern Kingdom mixed ancestry right from the very beginning.