Ten Tribes Studies (22 January, 2014, 21 Shevet 5774)
1. Exile of the Ten Tribes Resulted in the End of the Jubilee Laws
Addition to Article:
Tithing. Obligatory Gifts and Offerings in Scripture
12b. Query and Answer about the Ten Tribes, the Jubille, and Shemittah
a. Query by Fredrick Murphy
b. Reply by Yair
c. Comment by Fredrick Murphy on our answer
d. Second Reply by Yair.
a. Query by Fredrick Murphy
Fredrick Murphy posted on Hebrew Nations's timeline
Can you explain this, written currently in newsgroup email from you?
"The Sabbatical Year and Jubilee obligation was understood to require that all the Tribes be on their Lands."
Where is the condition given by HaShem, or therefore by Moshe, that "ALL the Tribes be on their Lands?"
And....didn't 70 yrs of Exile (Babylonian one) happen because Shmittah wasn't observed/obeyed.....(which Sabbatical is used in the computation of Yovel....)? All the while expected by HaShem, even though the majority of Yisrael was already in Exile (Assyrian one)?
Please explain/address. Todah rabbah...
b. Reply by Yair
You got me there. I may have been half -wrong. This goes to show what happens when someone who does not know that much writes based on his own understanding and faulty memory.
Exile is associated with not keeping the Shemittah (Sabbatical Year):
[Hebrew Language Article with sources and discussion:
32I will devastate the land, so that your enemies who come to settle in it shall be appalled at it. 33And you I will scatter among the nations, and I will unsheathe the sword against you; your land shall be a desolation, and your cities a waste.
34 Then the land shall enjoy* its sabbath years as long as it lies desolate, while you are in the land of your enemies; then the land shall rest, and enjoy its sabbath years. 35As long as it lies desolate, it shall have the rest it did not have on your sabbaths when you were living on it.
20 He took into exile in Babylon those who had escaped from the sword, and they became servants to him and to his sons until the establishment of the kingdom of Persia, 21 to fulfil the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had made up for its sabbaths. All the days that it lay desolate it kept sabbath, to fulfil seventy years.
We see from above that the Babylonian Exile was associated with the sin of not have observed the Sabbatical Year.
This presupposes that the Sabbatical Year had been obligatory right up tot he Time of Exile. This indeed seems to be the majority opinion.
I had assumed that
The Shemittah from the Torah was intrinsically linked to the Jubilee (Yovel). If the Jubilee could not be celebrated neither could the Shemittah. There is an opinion like this which is even quoted as the basis for legal decision (Gittin 36b). It is not however the mainstream understanding.
Anyway concerning the Jubilee year we were correct in that it was valid only up until the Exile of the Ten Tribes.
10 And you shall hallow the fiftieth year and you shall proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants.
When all its inhabitants are on it and not just a portion of it.
When all its inhabitants are on it in their Tribal Order and not intermixed with each other (Arakin 32:b).
Arachin 32b But did they count the years of release and Jubilees [after the return from Babylon]? If even after the tribe of Reuben, the tribe of Gad and the half-tribe of Manasseh went into exile, the Jubilees were abolished, should Nehemiah in connection with whom it is said: The whole congregation together was forty and two thousand three hundred and three score, have counted them? For it was taught: When the tribe of Reuben, the tribe of Gad and the half-tribe of Manasseh went into exile, the Jubilees were abolished as it is said: And ye shall proclaim liberty throughout the land unto all the inhabitants thereof, i.e., [only] at the time when all the inhabitants thereof dwell upon it, but not at the time when some of them are exiled. One might have assumed that if they were there, but intermingled, the tribe of Benjamin with that of Judah and the tribe of Judah with that of Benjamin, that even the [laws of the] Jubilee should apply, therefore it is said: 'unto all the inhabitants thereof', which means, only at the time when its inhabitants are there as [where] they ought to be, but not when they are intermingled! Said R. Nahman b. Isaac: They counted the Jubilees to keep the years of release holy. That will be right in the view of the Rabbis who hold that the fiftieth year is not included, but according to R. Judah who holds that the fiftieth year counts both ways, why was that necessary [to count the Jubilees]? It would have been enough if the years of release alone had been counted! Hence [we must say], this is not in accord with the view of R. Judah.
Most say that even though the Jubilee was no longer enforced after the Exile of the Ten Tribes the Year of Shemitta still was.
Hebrew Language Article: Shmittah (Yeshivat Bircat Mosheh Maaleh Edumim)
The Sanctification of Joshua was good for its own time and not for the future (Maimonides Terumah 1:).
The Sanctification of Ezra was good for the future. this is considered a Sanctification of the Sages rather than of the Torah. Nevertheless it has traditionally been stringently adhered to throughout the generations as if it did have Torah sanctification. There have however been exceptions and these have been justified by the assumption that Shemittah in our times derives from the Sages rather than directly from the Torah.
The Sanctification of Joshua ended with the Destruction of the First Temple.
Concerning our essay,
In practical terms there is not much difference one way or the other.
Instead of saying that both the Jubilee and the Shemittah were no longer applicable after the Exile of the Ten Tribes we now say (in accordance with the Majority opinion of the Sages) that only the Jubilee was rescinded.
Shemittah continued to be applicable according to the Torah up until the Fall of the First Temple.
After this it too was no longer in force until the Sages re-instituted it in a somewhat weakened form.
c. Comment by Fredrick Murphy on our answer
Fredrick Murphy commented on his post.
Fredrick wrote: "Okay, i follow your logic. The Yovel has been rescinded (by teachers of the Torah). Got it. Todah for the explaination. I don't agree with (maybe because i'm just not "understanding the facts " or maybe it's because i think "assumptions are being raised to the level of facts" by various teachers of the Torah...and that is a no-go for me). I personally desire to see how, outside of assumptions, the Yovel and the Sh'mittah were no longer mitzvot from HaShem that we were to strive to follow. Unless again, i'm just plain missing something (which if i can grasp what that would be, i will GLADLY change my opinion), i have nothing but difficulty in neglecting the mitzvot of HaShem on a topic in order to uphold the tradition/popular opinion of any teachers. I look TO teachers of the Law, don't get me wrong. But a line is drawn at times, and i know we all (ALL) choose not to agree with the other "party-line.""
d. Second Reply by Yair.
Perhaps you did not follow what I was saying.
The Sages DID NOT RESCIND anything.
They understood the said commandments to be contingent, according to the Bible, on certain conditions.
Once their pre-conditions were no longer in force the Commandments in question were no longer obligatory.
In the case of Shemittah the Sages re-imposed the obligation on their own authority in order to keep at least some aspects of it alive.
You may disagree with the Sages at to whether or not their interpretation of the commandments and their contingencies was correct or not.
In their understanding however it was not they who rescinded the commandments of the Jubilee and Shemittah but rather the Almighty Himself!
God controls history. HE decided that the required prerequisites to keep the Jubilee and Shemittah should for the time being not exist.
On this point you may argue with them as you wish.
2. QC: Israelites in the Palatine? (Germany west of the Rhine)
Subject: Hebrew background
Hello I have found you to have very valuable information. Sometime ago I bought a book the Tribes from you (Fascinating info). Unfortunately a friend and well known celebrity in Canada borrowed the book and can't part with it so I bought another one from you LOL and recently received it. Because of info in your book and info on the Huguenots I have built my Huguenot genealogy back to the middle of the 1500 and had my Y-DNA done a J-2 Haplogroup known as an old Hebrew DNA. My Grandfather on my Dad's side always told me we were from Hebrew extraction. My mother has been pushing me to do the same on her side and have chased it back to 1653 and also done the Y-DNA on her father's side, descendants of the Palatines of the Rhine Valley area another Hebrew Y=DNA of I-1. Unfortunately I cannot tell in your info or book who you think the Palatine people are from, although you do say most Israeli descendant peoples of this area went to the USA and of coarse Canada and are not the same people as the Germans. I would like to say I have researched many Palatine names that did go to Ireland and to the USA and Canada and so far they all have compared up as I-1 Haplogroup.
I should also say I have researched the Jewish burials web and find many people with the Wilde last name of my mother's father's side that is in question as from the Palatines.
I was wondering if you could tell me what tribe you think the Palatine people may have been from?
Thanks for all your help
From certain areas of Germany a good portion moved out. Those who went to North America were in some ways different from those who went to Argentina etc or who stayed in Germany.
DNA studies would not necessarily confirm this since to some degree (which is not clear) DNA may be determined by environmental phenomena.
We are speaking in general terms since exceptions in every direction may well be found.
Israelites were in Germany but on the whole moved out.
The Almighty calls HIS people in our time.
We (i.e. Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations) may help provide the Factual Rationale for those who feel this call.
3. Overlapping of Brit-Am Books
Re Brit-Am Now no. 2202. Ten Tribes Studies.
#2. Query About the Book, "Ephraim".
Also, are there overlaps in your books? Or, do they each cover completely different topics?
Todah for your assistance -
Julianah, a Ten Triber Israelite.
All of our books (apart to some degree from "The Khazars. Tribe 13") deal with different aspects of the same subject.
We also try to give new readers who have not read our previous works an overall picture from whatsoever of our works they obtain.
This naturally results in some repetition of information.
Even within the pages of the same work we sometimes necessarily [and sometimes perhaps unnecessarily?] repeat ourselves.
Nevertheless even when doing this we endeavor to do it in such a way that it sounds new and also to include points not previously noted.
Some notable overlapping took place in our work "Origin". This work was originally intended to be a booklet summarizing all findings up until that time.
The first part of "Origin" deals with a summary of the history of the Ten Tribes while the second part goes through all the prophetic works.
This first part repeats matters already covered in "The Tribes" and in "Lost Israelite Identity". The second part contains valuable information not obtainable elsewhere.
Regarding the other works (Ephraim, Biblical Truth, Joseph, Role to Rule, The Khazars. Tribe 13) I doubt that overlapping is a problem.
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