Messages and Comments accompanying Now no.2667 (13 September 2016, 10 Elul, 5776)
Contents:
1. DNA the Present Obstacle
2. Comments on Video Clips with Brit-Am Replies:
(1) Latin Countries as also from Joseph?
(2) British Celts versus Germanic Anglo-Saxons
(3) Instinctive Religious Identification as Proof of Israelite Identity?
(4) Virgins Galore??
(5) "Prof Marianne Uitzinger" Returning to Sources
3. Tireoghan O'Niall: Clans of Ulster and Ireland. Iar and Argyll, from Earra Gaidheal
4. Ancestors were Jews from Syria
5. Richard Ferrari: The "Old Testament" as a Point of Mutual Agreement?
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1. DNA the Present Obstacle
Messages and queries indicate that DNA findings for races in general and DNA tests for individuals comprise the major obstacle today for Brit-Am type teachings.
How are DNA classifications for races to be reconciled with Israelite Origins?
How are DNA tests for private individuals to be understood in the overall picture?
Martin Lightfoot (of the BIWF) in Britain has done some work on this matter.
So has Brit-Am.
We have been helped by others (such as Mark Williams) here and there but not enough has been done.
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2. Comments on Video Clips with Brit-Am Replies
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(1) Latin Countries as also from Joseph?
Ephraim is Britain!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvpQ8OQ-Z4
J Campo
Shalom. Interesting theory, but I disagree. Is it not written that Israel prophesied that Ephraim will be the father of many nations, and he would be greater (number) than his older brother? How does the US fit this bill? I guess you could say that because of the mixture of people, but still the logic is not there when you take into account that the USA was birthed out of Britain. The scriptures do not indicate the Ephraim will come out of Manasseh! I propose to you that Britain is indeed Manasseh and Ephraim are the nations borne out the Iberian peninsula, then you will see a clearer picture of the fulfillment of the prophecy. What area of the world can claim more direct descendant nations than the Sepharad? But between Britain, Spain, and Portugal, you have a huge population (~1 billion) who posses the entirety of the American continents.
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Brit-Am Reply:
Please read our articles etc on the subject of Ephraim and Manasseh. You will then see that Britain and the USA do fit the bill.
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(2) British Celts versus Germanic Anglo-Saxons
Ephraim is Britain!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvpQ8OQ-Z4
When you say 'British'? do you mean Briton or Anglo-Saxons? They are two different people groups with different origins (Anglo-Saxons come from Germany). This, of course, makes a difference ethnically.
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Brit-Am Reply:
We trace the Lost Ten Tribes to Western Peoples. It often happened that certain tribes would be splitb up and divided. Later they would re-converge and coalesce once again having reached the same locations by different pathways.
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(3) Instinctive Religious Identification as Proof of Israelite Identity?
Ephraim is Britain!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtvpQ8OQ-Z4
KentuckyGrly
Shalom Yair Davidly, I have a question after watching 'Rob Skiba' concerning Ephraim, He has a theory that 'we' those who are waking up to 'Torah' could possibly be part of the tribe of 'Ephraim. What are you thoughts on this Rob and I both are located in the United States, Thank you in advance for your response, Shalom
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Brit-Am Reply:
This is a possibility that many have raised and strongly believe in. We also adhere to it BUT in our opinion it is not enough on its own.
Such instinctive feelings of identification need to be supported by Research and Proven Fact or at the least explanations that are feasible.
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(4) Virgins Galore??
Roof Falls on Muslims Shouting "Death to the Jews!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPDWbEbDwAQ
Thalles Castellani
It looked more like an explosion than a roof falling. Maybe one of them was too rushy to meet the virgins and detonated before the best moment?
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(5) "Prof Marianne Uitzinger" Returning to Sources
RE:
Israel Rules Africa and India!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IckT9lTAxJE
Dear Yair
Thank you for this.
My family is finally agreeing we are of Jewish descent.
My parents were French Jews who came to south Africa after the war. (ww2)
They adopted a westernised lifestyle and culture, unfortunately we are only
beginning to establish the truth now. I have been to Israel many times
myself. And personally know Rabbi Feld and his friend Ovadyah
Baruch HaShem
Marianne
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3. Tireoghan O'Niall: Clans of Ulster and Ireland. Iar and Argyll, from Earra Gaidheal
some comments on reading your website
http://www.britam.org/tartan8.html
about ulster genealogy. you were talking about Iar Manasseh. I was wondering if anyone had attempted to make a connection between Iar and Argyll, supposedly derived from Earra Gaidheal. the ancient ruling families mainly in the south were Lamont, MacSween, MacEwen, MacNeill and MacLachlan all being descendants of the ancient Irish king Owen who was baptized by saint Patrick and the son of Neill of the nine hostages. ...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................the Later ruling family of Argyll were the "Campbells" Cam-Buel, gaelic for crocked mouth. Genetically they cannot be distinguished from the O'Neill clans through male lineage(R1b-M222), maybe pre-saint Patrick cousins who colonized Scotland as part of
dalriada.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ironically since the plantation of ulster Campbell has become one of the most common names where is would have been an uncommon Gall Oglaigh name. but they were strong allies of the second last O'Neill king Shane who was resisting the English invasion of ulster, and his cousin Hugh who accepted earldom rather than sovereignty. most Campbell men in ulster are probably descendants of the thousands of men who fought for King Shane O'Neill as part of the Duke of Argyll's dowry. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ulster scots should keep in mind they were loyal to the catholic Mary Queen of scots and Scottish clans MacDonnell, Campbell, Maclean, Macleod, Mackay and others fought against the English invasion of duthaich O'Neill. and that many apparently irish clans are pre plantation clans that were invited to Ireland to serve under irish kings and princes. ^
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4. Ancestors were Jews from Syria
dudeinbluejeans
Yair, I am stunned. I just found out that Jakob Schwar born in 1700 was listed in Hungary tax records as a Jew. He appears to possibly be the father or grandfather of my forefather Christian Schwarie. I also found out that there was a widow woman by the name of Annie Schwari who emigrated to the the USA in 1894 from Syria. At that time many Jews in Syria (who before had fled from Spain during the inquisition), began migrating to the USA. My mother's side is full of Jews., most notably Jakob Beiler. The widow Annie Schwari who emigrated from Syria is what blew me away. By the way, my people are Anabaptists better known as Amish/Mennonites, and there are no Amish/Mennonites in Syria.
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5. Richard Ferrari: The "Old Testament" as a Point of Mutual Agreement?
Hi Yair,
You are producing loads of stuff it is hard to keep up. Interesting comment by Norman Willis. This does speak an opinion to my question. Certainly Christian evangelical tendencies can be counterproductive as it might be pushing more than just a messiah, but also a lot of cultural stuff that is seen very negatively by Jews due to persecution etc in the past. Will it autoresolve, is it better to focus on what we know as the old testament as the point of strong agreement? I don't know, I am open to whatever is right. Certainly an attitude of humility is always helpful and there is lots to learn and understand. All the best to you.
Richard Ferrari
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Brit-Am Reply:
Shalom,
We offer information concerning the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel.
This knowledge is intended to be of mutual benefit.
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