Ten Tribes Studies (3 May, 2013, Iyar 23, 5773)
1. How Many Descendants of Israelites are there Really in the USA?
2. Brian Lloyd Davies: Charlotte Bronte, Seeking the Lost Tribes in Britain, 1849.
3. New Article and YouTube Clip. More Proofs from Scripture about the Hiding
(a) New Article. Name Hidden. The Ineffable Name of the Almighty and the Injunction not to attempt to pronounce it.
(b) New Video Clip. Hiddeness Predicted
4. Anecdotes and Queries from Charles:Â The White Lady in Vietnam
5. Academic Linguistic Criticisms of Our Hidden Name Article and Brit-Am Replies.
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1. How Many Descendants of Israelites are there Really in the USA?
Craig Blackwood posted on the Hebrew Nations Facebook timeline
"Shalom Yair...I think the U-tube on the Holy Name was well done. Others call it the INEFFABLE NAME.
My question is what would be your estimate of the population of true blue Israelite in the world today. Knowing say America might only be 1/3 Israelite.
Thank you"
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Brit-Am Reply.
Thanks for your comment.Â
(a) This YouTube clip of ours seems to be causing problems. I tried to access it twice from the Yair Davidiy Play Station
but only managed to receive short excerpts. The same clip as it appears embedded in our article seems to be available in its entirey.
See:
Holy Name?
(b) As for what proportion of the USA population is descended from Israel we cannot say.
We may however surmise that today perhaps as many as half the Israelites are in America. We would also say that Israelites historically have dominated the USA.
Israelites would most likely be the majority element amongst ethnic groups that until recently ruled over the USA.
You suggest about 1/3 of the total population. This percentage (or more) would seem feasible to us.
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2. Brian Lloyd Davies: Charlotte Bronte, Seeking the Lost Tribes in Britain, 1849.
Yair,
With regard to when the Ten Lost Tribes first became a subject to serious research in Britain there is an interesting reference to them in Charlotte Bronte's book Shirley. The book was first published in 1849 and in the middle of chapter 7 entitled The Curates at Tea there is the sentence 'the proceeds of such compulsory sales are applied to the conversion of the Jews, the seeking up of the ten missing tribes, or to the regeneration of the interesting colored population of the globe. ' The reference to the lost Ten Tribes is so off hand that it would seem as though the search for them was common knowledge at that time.
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Brian Lloyd Davies
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3. New Article and YouTube Clip. More Proofs from Scripture about the Hiding
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(a) New Article. Name Hidden. The Ineffable Name of the Almighty and the Injunction not to attempt to pronounce it.
Extract:
"This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations" (Genesis 3:15).
"Zeh shmi lo-olam ve-zeh zicri le-dor dor.
It says "This (Hebrew, "zeh") is My name forever, and this (Hebrew, "ve-zeh") is My memorial to all generations".Â
The Sages understood this passage as implying, "My name (as it shall be in the future) is not the same as by which I shall be recalled".
It says,
This is My name forever, and this is My memorial.
It may be protested that this sound like a simple matter of literary style and could be understood as (as it sounds in English), "This is my name and my memorial forever"
It does not however say this.
It says "this is" meaning one thing, "and this is" meaning another.
In order not to be accused of applying a meaning a meaning in one place for a certain expression and denying this same meaning in another we looked up the word "and this is" (In Hebrew "v-zeh") in the Concordance. We found it appearing 48 times. Every single time where the word "ve-zeh" (i.e. "and this") occurs in the Bible it is referring to something else.
"this is... and this is..." in the Hebrew Bible ALWAYSÂ REFERSÂ TOÂ TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!
"This is My name forever, and this is My memorial" should therefore be understood as referring to two different names.
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(b) New Video Clip. Hiddeness Predicted
Duration ca. 19 minutes
The Holy Name was to be hidden as predicted. The Bible (Exodus 3:15) says that the Holy Name will be revealed in the future but for now is not known and attempt should not be made to know it! See:
Name Hidden. The Ineffable Name of the Almighty and the Injunction not to attempt to pronounce it.
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4. Anecdotes and Queries from Charles:Â The White Lady in Vietnam
I have a couple of interesting stories about this. When I was a young man about 17 a black girl was making advances at me. I used to pray and ask for advice and then just open the bible to read what it said. When I did this I came right to a passage that said. Thou shall not lust after strange flesh! I took it to mean not to respond to her advances. The other comment I have in regards to this is that later in life when I was about 20 I was stationed in Nakom Phenom Thailand during the last part of the Viet Nam War. I was downtown when I saw one of the most unusual things I had ever seen. There were four men caring on their shoulders a woman in a box with curtains closed. I walked closer to see what was in the box. To my surprise I saw the most beautiful woman I had ever seen. She had long dark hair but her skin was completely white. Not Caucasian but white like paper or Ivory. I had never seen anyone since or ever again who resembled this color. I asked her if I could talk to her (in her own tongue) and she looked down at me and at first and said no. But then I put my hand to my heart and she agreed. She told the liter bearers to put her down and she directed me to go to a side building where we were able to talk in private. She told me that she was already betrothed to another man. I asked her where she was from and I believe she told me the old capitol of Chaing Mai however it has been so long I'm not sure on this matter. In those days this area was not traveled much by tourist. I thought you might like to know this as it maybe possable that there is some link between this and Miriam?
The probation that was given to me may have been in the sense of lusting and not her color however I didn't really lust after at all.
A few more questions
The English Rose that you show. Is that not the symbol for a hidden masonic order called the Rosicrucian's?
Doesn't it say in Exodus 3:14 14 And God (Elohim) said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: (Ehyeh asher Ehyeh) and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am (Ehyeh) hath sent me unto you.
Is this saying that the Name is Ehyeh?
 But even more telling I think is even more revealing is Gen 14:18-20 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God (El Elyown). 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor (The original creating God) of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
Melchizedek = "my king is Sedek" (Righteous) or (King of Righteousness)
elyown el = Highest, Most High; a) name of God; b) of rulers, either monarchs or angel-princes
Possessor = to get, acquire, obtain; a) of God originating, creating, redeeming His people;
So from this we can get that the name of the Most High God is El Elyown.
Thank you for all your hard work you are a blessing
Charles
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Brit-Am Reply:
The Brit-Am Rose and the Brit-Am organization has nothing to do with the Freemasons, nor with the Rosicrucians, nor with anybody else.
 I Am That I Am or I Am (Ehyeh) may indeed be considered one of the numerous Names of God BUT it is not the Ineffable name whose pronunciation was forbidden. The same applies to the other names.
God bless you,
Yair
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5. Academic Linguistic Criticisms of Our Hidden Name Article and Brit-Am Replies.
Fredrick Murphy commented on Hebrew Nations Facebook link.
Fredrick wrote: " The explanation i was given: The problem is taking "a particular form of the word and apply the meaning desired in a certain context, but do not apply the same meaning when that particular form of the word of found elsewhere. This us putting one's "own meaning into the text wherever (you) want to do so, but (being) totally inconsistent with the rest of the Tanach where the same word and expression is found. This is not exegesis but eisegesis. Not deriving the meaning from the text, but importing one's own meaning into the text." The explanation- "What is going on here is that vowels, which were not originally written in the text of the Tanach, were sometimes indicated by the addition of a particular consonant. We call this matris lectionis (Latin term) meaning "mother of the sound." In short, the consonants hey, vav, yod were used to denote a vowel before the Masoretes (6th century CE and later) developed the nikkudot (dots, dashes, etc.) to indicate the vowels. Sometimes the original consonants (hey, vav, yod) are retained in the spelling even after the nikkud were developed, and sometimes these "vowel consonants" are not retained. If they are retained the word is said to be written "full" (Hebrew "malei' ) and if they are not retained, the word is said to be spelled "defective" (Hebrew chasir [ ]). In Ex 3:15, the word, usually spelled "full" ( ) is here spelled "defective" ( ). In fact, the note in the Masorah Parva makes it clear that whether the word is spelled "defective" or "full," it is still the same word, i.e., "forever." To use an English example: color vs. colour or check vs. cheque, i.e., American spelling vs. British spelling. But of course, the words are still the same: color is the same as colour, and check is the same as cheque. The word (with the vav being retained as the "long-o" sound, called cholem-vav) and (without the vav, thus just with cholem as the "long-o" sound) are the same word, both meaning "forever." However, since there is a verb spelled that means "hidden," the rabbis make a "play on words" and interpret Ex 3:15 to mean "hidden." However, in Ex3:15, the form is , the initial lamed is a preposition "to" and then the word "forever." Never in all of the Tanach is there an instance where the verb , "to be hidden" is found in the qal stem (as it would have to be understood here if it means "hidden") with an initial lamed.The only time the verb , "to be hidden" is found with initial (preposition "to") is in Deut 22:3, and here ("to be hidden") is in the hitpael stem, not the qal stem. Moreover, if we look for every time that the word "forever" ( ) is spelled defectively (as it is in Ex3:15), we find it 22 times in the Tanach: Gen 3:22; 6:3; Ex 3:15;15:18; 21:6; 31:17; 32:13; Lev 25:46; Deut 5:29; 32:40; 1 Kings1:31; 2:33; 9:5; 10:9; Is 57:11; Psa 45:18; 75:10; 92:9; 136:3; Job 7:16; Eccl 3:11; 1 Chr 16:36. If it means "hidden" in Ex 3:15, what about the other times it is found? Take, for instance, Ex 31:17, speaking of the Sabbath: "It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed." How could the Sabbath be a "sign" that is "hidden"? Or what about Ex 32:13? "'Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, Your servants to whom You swore by Yourself, and said to them, I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heavens, and all this land of which I have spoken I will give to your descendants, and they shall inherit it forever." Is the Land a "hidden" inheritance? Consider 1Ki 1:31, "Then Bathsheba bowed with her face to the ground, and prostrated herself before the king and said, "May my lord King David live forever." Is King David really to live "hidden"?!? Each of these 22 instances has the form , just as it is in Ex 3:15 (but without the , of course). So if (you) want to make the meaning in Ex 3:15 to "hidden," then why not this same meaning in the other 21 times the word if found in this form?!" "
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Brit-Am Reply:
Thank you for your letter and for forwarding me the expert opinion. Quite elucidating.
Most of the claims have been answered in detail in our new article,
Name Hidden. The Ineffable Name of the Almighty and the Injunction not to attempt to Pronounce it
 Your expert is saying that even if the passage may be understood the way we understand it does not mean that such was the intention.
In answer we would say it is enough that it can encompass such intention since it is confirmed by the continuation of the sentence.
This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations (Exodus 3:15).
We have shown in the article above that "my name forever" and "my memorial" Â are referring to two different renditions of the same name. One was to be pronounced for a certain number of generations and the other was to be hidden but later used in the future.
We proved that two different renditions of the name were intended by using statistical comparisons that your expert had criticized us for not using previously.
The claims made may be defined as two points:
(1) The expression "to be hidden" is not found elsewhere in the Bible in the same form we have shown it to be indicated here.
(2) The reading of le-elem instead of Le-olam is not applicable anywhere else.
OK. Our friend, the expert, has admitted that it is written l-elam meaning to be hidden. We say that it was intended to connote BOTH "to be hidden" and "forever". This is what it does.
He says that even though the verbal-root "elem" to be hidden is found in the Bible it is not found in the particular conjugation we are applying it. We would reply that it should be enough that is used in various verbal forms and that the conjugational form we apply to it is one used in the Bible.
Grammatically "le-elem" meaning to be hidden is consistent with Biblical Hebrew.
It also NEEDS to be able to double and have a secondary meaning of "le-olam" i.e. forever.
This form spelt as "le-elem" (to be hidden) and pronounced as "le-olam" is found elsewhere and there only means (in the other places) forever and not "to be hidden".
This however is not a point against our understanding since in the other places it does not have to mean anything else. Here it does and the Sages agreed that it does.
It needs to be realized that two different renditions of the name are being referred to
This is My name forever [to be hidden], and this is My memorial to all generations (Exodus 3:15).
We justify (in the article above) the opinion of the Sages that TWO DIFFERENT names are being referred to by looking at the statistics. In 48 instances out of all 48 occurrences in the Bible the expression in  question DOES mean that there are two different objects in question! You cannot have it both ways. If you claim we are wrong in one case because elsewhere the word does not mean what we say it did in one particular place then you should admit we are right when everywhere else it does say exactly the same as we understand it to mean here!
The verse says that two names are being referred to and that one of the names is to be hidden. The name to be hidden denotes the Essence of God.
The other name which is to be retained is "by which I shall be remembered" and refers to attributes in general.
God exists. God who exists is the God of our fathers. HE is the God Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
This is how HE reveals HIMSELF to the world, through Israel.