TR-76

Tribal Report: Tribal Report: France, Irish, Britain (19 January 2016, 9 Shevet, 5776)

TR-76
Tribal Report: France, Irish, Britain
Contents:
1. The French were better in WW2 than is commonly acknowledged!
2. Why is Irish support vital in the US Presidential elections?
3. Ireland and Britain. Nial the Conqueror
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 1. The French were better in WW2 than is commonly acknowledged!
Did the French blame themselves when they were easily defeated and occupied by Germany in WWII?
https://www.quora.com/
Philippe Dangin
Extracts:

I'm amazed by what I read all around . Nobody remembers now that the Germans applied a lightning blistering strategy which nobody in the world could resist in 1940 . Everybody seems to ignore that the British sent their troops to France and these troops were swept away at the same speed as the French . By this time Churchill openly said that the only difference between Britain and France was the English Channel... Fortunately England had the best Navy .
All of Western Europe and more was conquered very quickly . Then when you look at Russia and see the distance from Warsaw to Moscow, whose suburbs were reached by the Wehrmarcht, you'll see it's wider than France : the Russians could at last stop the invasion when a country like France would have already been submerged.

Note : It is obvious that French army leadership was totally inadequate to modern times . Old stubborn headquarters had always refused to listen to guys like De Gaulle who were advocating new tactics and material . .... French successive governments of the 30s were very busy preventing another revolution . Two or three times France had been on the verge of a Socialist revolution while on the other hand Fascist Leagues were displaying a lot of agitation against parliamentary democracy .... coming from WWI butchery and the example of Russian revolution was alive in Germany, Italy, Spain . In these three countries the choice was brutally made by Hitler, Mussolini, Franco . In France extreme right never could grab the power (without the Wehrmacht's help) but a war coming from Germany was a thing most people didn't find that was an interesting enough question, compared to  more urgent ones . ( I'm not saying they were right or wrong ) .
Then it's true Hitler-Stalin pact made the powerful CP leadership, obeying Moscow, reluctant to call for intense fighting, while  very conservative generals and politicians prefered Hitler's ways than Communism . In short, a complete confusion, whose origins are in real politics, not in military adventures that always are  consequences of political failure .
..... during the 40 days of the Battle of France  the  German army lost more men, fa  more tanks and far more planes than during the first 6 weeks of  Operation Barbarossa in USSR, while nobody suspects the Russians to be  soft fighters, and as many troops as during the two months of the battle of Normandy after the D-Day . The French lost around 100,000 dead soldiers . To give a proportion the USA, in 3.5  years of war from North Africa and Europe to the Pacific, had around 425,000 dead ( and no civilians to be added as in France ) . The USA had 3 or 4 times more citizens than France and they lost 425,000 in 180 weeks while the French lost 100,000 soldiers + xxx civilians in 6 weeks . ...

As you can see, out of a BlitzKrieg situation, in a "normal" battle, French troops behaved as well as in the past . Note that beside the preservation of the British army, they also say half of the Luftwaffe was lost in the battle of France . If it's true, you can imagine the air battle of England would have been different without the battle of France first .
But hey, when I read an answer here saying that the British fleet sank the French fleet in Toulon ! what can we expect nowadays from Anglophone  ideas about WWII ? In 1940 French sailors sabotaged all Atlantic ports to prevent the Germans from using them, and when the Nazis invaded Vichy's zone in 1942, the French scuttled ALL their ships in Toulon . The English only speak of Mers el Kebir, where something like 7 French ships sank, but in Toulon they were over 50 .

...Besides, before the war in all Europe there were many people and medias who said " Better Hitler than Communism" . Nazi atrocities were not known, not even foreseen in 1940, and the Red Peril seemed worse to many . Add the ubiquitous propaganda, pro-Germania references to Charlemagne  and anti-English ones to Joan of Arc, "Petain the 'saviour of France at Verdun' couldn't betrade us" article of faith, French masses being as everywhere easily manipulated and the Wehrmarcht being there with the Gestapo, I say  any country in the same situation would have been the same . By the way it was the same in Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Hungary, Poland, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, everywhere local fascists collaborating . Italy, Spain and Portugal already had fascist goverments, and in England there was Oswald Mosley : with the Svastika above London, Mosley would have done the job with them .
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2. Why is Irish support vital in the US Presidential elections?
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/Why-are-the-Irish-important-to-the-US-Presidential-elections.html?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Best%20of%20IC%20-%20Nov%2012&utm_term=The%20Best%20of%20IrishCentral
Kate Hickey @KateHickey_
November 12,2015 01:38 AM

Extracts:

Although not often mentioned on the campaign trail, the Irish are key to winning elections in the United States for two reasons: they love politics and they get out and vote. That's according to Irish American Democrat Stella O'Leary.

O'Leary's career in politics began in 1995 when she was asked to 'organize' a group Irish Americans who had banded together to ensure that Bill Clinton was reelected. The group feared that the Irish Peace Process might fail if he were not. This was the start of the Irish American Democrats, the first Irish political action group in the United States.

'It was unbelievable,' O'Leary said. 'There were 35 Jewish political action committees. I went to find out how could this be and the reason is very interesting' the Irish never needed one. When they had a political question or favor they needed they simply got on the phone to Senator Kennedy, or Senator Leahy, or Chris Dodd' Her list continued.

Over the years O'Leary has worked in Irish American politics from local elections to various presidential campaigns and now, under President Obama, as well as continuing in her role as the Irish American Democrats Founder she is among the Observers to the International Fund for Ireland.

O'Clery began their discussion by reminiscing on his career as a 'pencil' (print journalist), touring the country with various presidential hopefuls from Ronald Reagan to George W Bush. He remarked on the fact that even on the road with Bill Clinton and Massachusetts, Senator Edward Kennedy the Irish question was never raised. He asked O'Leary why is it that the 'Irish vote' continues to be of importance in US Presidential elections and if Irish Americans were simply inclined to vote for candidates due to their cultural and economic policy.

'There's no question that on cultural issues the Irish American Diaspora is more interested in their heritage, I would say, apart from the Jewish people, they are the most interested in their heritage of any of the groups in the United States,' O'Leary replied.

'As you know [34.7 million] claim Irish heritage, but that wouldn't necessarily come out in political dialogue. From my point of view, at a certain point the Irish divided and they are now as far as Congress goes about 50% Republicans and 50% Democrats.

'The reason that they are so important to politicians in America is that they're terrific voters. The Irish have a history of voting and right now, using computers, they can calculate, or estimate, exactly who's voting.'

She went on to illustrate the power of the Irish by using the example of Congressman Joe Crowley from Queens.

'Crowley has in his constituency, he has 18% Irish, in his Queens district. His vote come election is 45% Irish that's because the others are not voting, the Indians and Afghans and so forth. The Irish vote and so they're very important to American politicians. That holds for both sides,' said O'Leary.

'They're also very highly represented in Congress on both sides. Far more than other ethnic groups. One in four are Irish.'

The Republicans, on the other hand, remain a worry. O'Leary believes their form of politics is one of 'exploitation.' She said those who have suffered financially over the past decade are angry and for the first time, perhaps since the 19th century, these politicians are agreeing with them.

'When they express their concerns,' O'Leary said. 'The Republicans say, "Oh yes, yes. I agree with you. I'll build a wall. Keep out the immigrants. They're your problem." I think the Republicans feed into that anger.'

She added that there is a 'great deal of resentment today in the white male community in America. They're dwindling in their numbers in relation to the rest of the ethnic groups, particularly the Hispanics and the Asians and the African Americans, and they feel the rug is being pulled out from under them.''
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3. Ireland and Britain. Nial the Conqueror
Source:
"Races of Mankind. Their Origin and Migration," by Calvin Kephart, NY, 1960.

p.318 With the advent of Niall Niogiallach, who reigned during 379-405, the supremacy of the overking at Tara became firmly established. He engaged in many sea-raiding expeditions and directed  incursions of mixed bands of Scots and Pictavians (Cruithney) from Ireland into Britain. He also established Scottish colonies in South Wales, Cornwall, Devon, and Somerset, and in Argyllshire. These colonies included some Goidelic subjects from Ireland. He died while on a sea raid in the English Channels in 405. All the rest of Ireland (Scotia Major) came under succeeding Milesian overlords during the 5th century.

p.318 n. 242: During his reign [i.e. of Niall], the sept of the Desi was expelled from the district of Deece, county Meath, and settled in Munster, where their name still survives in the Baroncy of Decie, in county Waterford. Their descendants were the "Scots who dwelt in the south of Ireland" and whose religious customs were referred to by Bede as of A.D. 635. Long afterwards some of these people migrated to Pembrokeshire in Wales.