Another Cup of Tea Tephi?
Anything recorded in Jewish texts about the names of the 2 daughters who went with Jeremiah out Jerusalem into Egypt after the Babylonian Invasion. Or any significant stand out details fo that period?'
1. Descent from King David.
2. Daughters of King Solomon in Manasseh and Naphtali.
3. Extract from JEREMIAH IN IRELAND By John E. Wall, PROOF FROM THE BIBLE AND THE IRISH ANNALS.
4. Overturn! Overturn! Overturn! - A Mistranslation.
1. Descent from King David.
In answer to this question we have several articles:
Descendants of David. Did Jeremiah Bring Davidic Princesses to Ireland?
This article discusses what we really do know about Jeremiah and also what we know concerning descendants of David being in the west.
In short it may be that Royal Lineages in Western Europe, including that of Britain, are in some cases descended from King David.
A plausible case could be made for this. We do not need the story of Ten Tephi (which appears to be a fabrication) for it. Even if the apparenly recently invented tale of Tea Tephi was true it would not mean much.
Descent from King David goes through the male line and Tea Tephi was a female.
Other Brit-Am articles on this subject include:
Getting back to the question:
The daughters of King Zedekiah who went to Egypt with Jeremiah (Jeremiah 43) are as far as I know not recalled in later Jewish sources.
British Israel writings claim they went to Ireland. They identify one of the Pincesses by name Tea Tephi.
This is discussed in a British-Israel article, see:
3. JEREMIAH IN IRELAND
By John E. Wall
PROOF FROM THE BIBLE AND THE IRISH ANNALS [Extract]
# ONE of the most beloved stories of traditional literature written by those who support the modern identity of the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel is the story of the coming of the prophet Jeremiah to Ireland. According to this story shortly after c. 586 BCE when Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, conquered Jerusalem, Jeremiah the prophet, accompanied by his scribe Baruch, and the daughters of Zedekiah, the last king of Judah, fled that country and for a short time resided in Egypt. From there they took ship to Ireland, where one of the daughters married Eochaidh the high king (heremon or ard ri) of Ireland. A variation says that the marriage took place in Jerusalem. The royal couple governed the Emerald Isle from their capital at Tara in County Meath. Jeremiah, at that time an old man, was also reputed to have established a sort of ministerial training college at Tara. He became a revered figure in Irish legend.
Over the course of the centuries the royal line established at Tara was transferred from Ireland to Scotland to England where it survives today in the person of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. A wondrous stone, variously called the Stone of Destiny, Stone of Scone, or Coronation Stone, upon which Her Majesty and her predecessors on the thrones of the three kingdoms were crowned, thought to be the stone that the patriarch Jacob slept on at Bethel (Genesis 28:18-22) was also believed to have been brought to Ireland by Jeremiah.
It is claimed that the story of Jeremiah coming to Ireland can be found in the ancient annals, histories and other literature of the Irish, and indeed references to it abound in the works written by traditional Ten Tribes scholars, especially 19th-century writers. Yet rarely, if ever, do these writers point to any specific history in which this tale may be found, vague references to 'Irish annals' usually being made. A few examples will suffice:
One authority states that ' Irish historians are unanimous that about 580 B.C. there arrived in Ulster a notable man [Jeremiah], a patriarch or saint, accompanied by an Eastern princess, and a lesser person by the name of Simon Brach or Barech'.(I)
Further that, 'Irish tradition tells us that Jeremiah married the princess Tamar Tephi to Eochaidh king of Ireland'.(2)
However, the historians are not named, nor is any particular tradition cited.
Another writer says that 'The ancient records of Ireland bear ample testimony to this [Jeremiah's coming to Ireland] as an historic fact, not only recording the event itself, but also supplying confirmatory evidence by giving the actual date or period of their arrival correctly'.(3)
Again, disappointingly, this author does not name the 'ancient records' in which the Jeremiah story may be found; rather we read phrases such as, 'the records conclude .. .'(4) and 'The royal records state .. . '.(5)
He dates the coming of Jeremiah to Ireland at late in 583 BCE or early 582 BCE.
The closest that any writer comes to naming names is a contemporary author and archaeologist, E. Raymond Capt. In his book, Jacob's Pillar: A Biblical Historical Study, Capt makes reference to The Chronicles of Eri, The Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters, The Annals of Clonmacnoise, and The Chronicles of Scotland. He quotes briefly from the latter and gives an extensive recounting of the entire Jeremiah legend in his notable book. However, like the learned writers cited above, Capt does not directly cite any passage in any ancient chronicle which explicitly mentions Jeremiah.(6)
This lack of corroboration of the Jeremiah legend has caused some to doubt the validity of the entire story.
But I will show in this article that Jeremiah is mentioned in the Irish annals and histories, albeit under another name. His Judahite ancestry and prophetic identity are clearly stated and even a brief physical description is given. His friend and amanuensis Baruch is also mentioned. Furthermore, I will name names and give the reader of this article the references by which he may corroborate the story himself. #
The author, John E. Wall, then goes on to attempt and identify an Irish ancestral hero, Iarbanel son of Nemedh, with Jeremiah.
Take it or leave it.
To my mind to establish such a claim much more evidence is needed.
Also, what is the point?
Since according to everyone in Biblical Terms the male lineage from David would be the most important one why not search for that?
As we have mentioned on several occasions quite a few possible historical candidates exist who probably descended from David and did contribute csomething to the lineages of Royal Kings among West European Royal Houses.
4. Overturn! Overturn! Overturn! - A Mistranslation.
Ezekiel (KJB) 21:
25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end, 26 Thus saith the LORD GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high. 27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
The above verses are translations of the Hebrew Original. What exactly the intention is the subject for further study.
The word translated "overturn" in Hebrew is "IVA" from the root "av." it connotes desolation and destruction. "Overturn" is incorrect. Usually the KJ is reasonably accurate but int his case it appears not to be.
Other English Translations (ESV, NLT, NASB, etc) correctly translate the word "iva" to mean "ruin" or "ruins." The DRB translates it as "Iniquity, iniquity," iniquity" which is also a possibility.
At all events "overturn" it is not.
This is important because certain British-Israel circles claim the verse is referring to Tea Tephi!
# ... the overturning must refer to removing the throne from one nation and raising it up in another. And the mentioning of overturn three times would certainly seem to be saying that such overturning would occur three times...
They say first the throne was overthrown from Judah and via Tea Tephi taken to Scotland. From Ireland it was overturned and taken to Scotland and from there it was again overturned and taken to England. I have simplified the argument a biot but that is what they have been saying. If this argument makes sense at all it is only when the KJ translation is used and in this case the KJ is evidently mistaken.