Responses to Hebrew Nations Survey October 2012 (Cheshvan, 5773) Part Two
Do you wish your answers to remain (a) anonymous? (b) Not anonymous but sensitive issues not publicized in my name; (c) No need for any anonymity but all may be made public.====Answer: a====Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you just mildly interested in the possibility?====Answer: believe====
If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single factor you can mention that initiated this belief?====Answer: my restoration church provides evidence====Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?====Answer: England and Germany.====
What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?====Answer: Not sure. Maybe better organization into categories of evidence.====
Do you find our message convincing?====Answer: Partly/mostly.====
What do you particularly like about it?====Answer: The scripture references and historical/geographical evidence.====
What do you dislike?====Some of the comments of others you print are not interesting to me.====
Proposed Publications.Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
a. Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
====Answer: Yes, sounds good.====
b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.====Answer: Yes, sounds good.====
c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things beingequal) would you prefer?====
Answer: Scripture first, I suppose.====
====AppealsDo you read our appeals for funds?====Answer: some====
Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
====Answer: maybe a little, but you do what you feel you need to do====
Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
====Answer: Not much except when they are too frequent.====
Are they likely to have an effect on you, i.e. would you donate because of them?
====Answer: Not likely.====
If you already donate, can you say why?
====Answer: I mainly just buy your books with little or no extra donations.====
If you do not donate, can you say why not?
====Answer: I have too many other demands on time and money.====
====YouTube Clips.We have now begun to concentrate a little on YouTube clips. The response on the whole has not been overwhelming but it does exist and appears justified.Do you have any comments on this:====
Answer: I don't usually take time for you tube.====
Are you Prepared to Help Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations?====
Answer: I may buy more books some time.====
Help should take the form of financial support (where possible, if it is not possible then no) or AS WELL as spreading the message through the Internet or in other ways.Do you agree with the above? If not, why not?
====Answer: I have other demands I address more, though I think the subject of your work is extremely important. I think your information is largely correct, but I believe you are wrong on parts of it. America is Ephraim and Manasseh with Ephraim predominate since the British and northern European ancestry is so strong. I appreciate what you are doing with the information you have found and know about.
2. Response from BARBARA GORDON-LANTTO.
Do you wish your answers to remain (a) anonymous? (b) Not anonymous
but sensitive issues not publicized in my name; (c) No need for any
anonymity but all may be made public.
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Answer:No need for anonymity
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Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you
just mildly interested in the possibility?
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Answer:Yes I stongly believe
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single
factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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Answer:My family name "Gordon" and I am a Cherokee Descendant, married a DAVIS and Lantto ( Finn)
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Which of the following would you consider the most important in
leading to an identification with this message:
Instinct; Bible; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs; Religious
Experience; Other.====All the above
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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Answer:Israel, Ireland and Virginia====
What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?
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Answer:More Research====
Do you find our message convincing?
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Answer: Yes====
What do you particularly like about it?
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Answer: consistancy====
What do you dislike?====The plea for money. I have little money, ( Social Security)
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Proposed Publications.
Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
a. Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: yes====
b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: My Cherokee Elder tells me that we Cherokee came by Phoenician ship====
c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being
equal) would you prefer?
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Answer: I am a Reader
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Appeals
Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer: Yes
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Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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Answer: Realistic====
Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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Answer:NO I am a Researcher and curious====Are there any other issues you would like deal with?
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Answer: I love it all.
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Do you agree with the above? If not, why not?
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Answer: NO money honey
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Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you just mildly interested in the possibility?
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Answer: yes
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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Answer: My heritage is Anglo Saxon
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Which of the following would you consider the most important in leading to an identification with this message:
Instinct; Bible; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs; Religious Experience; Other.
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Answer:
Christian upbringing
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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England and Wales and Scotland (I have heard they formerly left France because of some type of trouble, and an ancestor gave birth at the road side during an escape of some type.)
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What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?
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Nothing. I like the new Hebrew Nation site so far
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Do you find our message convincing?
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Answer: Yes
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What do you particularly like about it?
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Answer: It is available and on YouTube.
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What do you dislike?
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Sometimes the messages come across as very intense. I personally don't mind that, but may cause some to dismiss it.
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Proposed Publications.
Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
a. Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
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A short book on that would be helpful.
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b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.
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Yes a concise, very professional looking book would be good for sharing with skeptical non-Bible oriented folks.
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c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being equal) would you prefer?
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(b) Historical.
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Is there anything else we could do to spread the message?
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Advertising, more activity/regular or even daily postings on Face Book eg Youtube interviews including historians, scholars, linguists, archaeologists, rabbis, etc.
There may be someone who knows how to manage a FaceBook page and stimulate questions and discussion such as you see on Jewish Jesus Daily, which has become very popular.
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Appeals
Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer: usually
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Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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Answer: neutral or positive
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Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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A little , but, as a regular, I have become used to them. I wish they weren't necessary, and sometimes they seem more pleading and scolding than is comfortable. They may dissuade potential readership.
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Are they likely to have an effect on you, i.e. would you donate because of them?
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Answer: Only insofar as they are a reminder. I do not think the tenor of them reaches me except to feel guilty. Then I push that aside and decide for myself.
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If you already donate, can you say why?
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I believe in the message and want it to get out.
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Web-Site
We now have two main functioning sites.
We hope shortly to upgrade and improve the first site:
http://britam.orgDo you have any suggestions?
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Get a professional to Organize it and make it "pop" without overmuch color emphasis. Let the message and the titles call to our attention. If it looks perhaps like James Tabor's blog, http://jamestabor.com it can draw the attention of the intellectual types.
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YouTube Clips.
We have now begun to concentrate a little on YouTube clips. The response on the whole has not been overwhelming but it does exist and appears justified.
Do you have any comments on this:
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Answer: Keep them short, with only 30 seconds for background information stating that the lost tribes can be found among Western nations at the start. People will not wait around these days, so you have to move to the new material as quickly as possible. Beneath the video, along with your blurb, you can include a dozen additional youtubes if you like! I understand why you repeat the overall message and that this can be proved, but there is not time. People will be gone before you get to the current message.
An example is Rabbi Ginsburg's JewU which has 600 videos and they are each around 4 or 5 minutes long.http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=JewU&oq=JewU&gs_l=youtube.12..35i39j0j0i10l8.2044.3532.0.6135.4.4.0.0.0.0.96.343.4.4.0...0.0...1ac.dcsU2b5G7vM====
Are you Prepared to Help Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations?
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ok, I enjoy proofreading on occasion.
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Help should take the form of financial support (where possible, if it is not possible then no) or AS WELL as spreading the message through the Internet or in other ways.
Do you agree with the above? If not, why not?
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Answer: yes
Do you wish your answers to remain (a) anonymous? (b) Not anonymousbut sensitive issues not publicized in my name; (c) No need for any
anonymity but all may be made public.
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Answer: C
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Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you
just mildly interested in the possibility?
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Answer: STRONGLY BELIEVE
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single
factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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Answer: BIBLICAL PROPHECY (What other nation or nations have fulfilled the promises made to Abraham?)
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Which of the following would you consider the most important in
leading to an identification with this message:
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Bible; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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Answer: Europe - specifically England, Ireland.
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What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?
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Answer: You do very well already. I have no fresh ideas.
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Do you find our message convincing?
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Answer: Yes, for he or she who has ears to hear and eyes to see.
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What do you particularly like about it?
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Answer: No particular likes or dislikes.
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What do you dislike?====
See above.
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Proposed Publications.
Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
a. Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
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Yes
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b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.
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Answer:
Yes
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c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being
equal) would you prefer?
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Answer: A combination of the two together would be most convincing. First the prophecies, then the historical proof or evidence of fulfillment.
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Is there anything else we could do to spread the message?
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Answer: You seem to have covered all the bases.
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Appeals
Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer: Yes
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Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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Answer: I realize that every organization must have funds to operate. We have the same problem. Our offerings have decreased dramatically to the point that we have had to restrict some programs. However, I have only hinted at our needs, with minimal results. Maybe I need to be more persistent.
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Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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Answer: Unfortunately, yes.
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Are they likely to have an effect on you, i.e. would you donate
because of them?
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Answer: We all need reminding. My offerings to Brit Am have been through book purchases, and those were quite some time ago.
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If you do not donate, can you say why not?
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Answer: Lack of funds.
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YouTube Clips.
We have now begun to concentrate a little on YouTube clips. The
response on the whole has not been overwhelming but it does exist and
appears justified.
Do you have any comments on this:
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Answer: NO. I have not seen any of them
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Are you Prepared to Help Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations?
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Answer: Not financially at this time. I also have articles that touch on this subject, although it is not the primary focus.
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Do you wish your answers to remain (a) anonymous? (b) Not anonymous but sensitive issues not publicized in my name; (c) No need for any anonymity but all may be made public.
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Answer: C
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Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you just mildly interested in the possibility?
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Answer: Strongly believe my family and I are descended from Israel
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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Answer: Grew up in the RLDS church and belief in possible descendance from 12 tribes was an informal sub-doctrine.
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Which of the following would you consider the most important in leading to an identification with this message:
Instinct; Bible; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs; Religious Experience; Other.
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For me, Bible and Historical Proofs are about equally important.
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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Answer: I'm of German ancestry on both sides - father's family immigrated to America in 1730-1750's from Baden-Wurttemberg region and mother's family immigrated 1860-1870's (original region unknown at this time). Possible link to Jewish ancestry on mother's side since some Jews have "Groner" surname.
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What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?
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Answer: Don't work alone; try to collaborate with others. I would like to see references to academic studies of lingual shifts - particularly to justify America originally being HaMacheri (I'm not wholly convinced on that point).
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Do you find our message convincing?
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Answer: Yes.
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What do you particularly like about it?
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Answer: Breadth of historical evidence gleaned from ancient writings
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What do you dislike?====
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Lack of evidence for lingual shifts
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Proposed Publications.
Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
a. Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: 100% YES
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b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: 100% YES (Never can have too much!)
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c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being equal) would you prefer?
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Answer: I love bible prophecy (here, this is where collaboration with someone with a Christian background would help.)
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Is there anything else we could do to spread the message?
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Answer: I would like to see reports of how you're influencing Members of the Knesset. Have you worked with Caroline Glick or MK Tzipi Hotovely?
6. Response from Anonymous6
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Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you
just mildly interested in the possibility?
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I strongly believe it.
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single
factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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Answer:
Studying Herbert Armstrong's US & Britain in Prophecy
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Which of the following would you consider the most important in
leading to an identification with this message:
Instinct; Bible; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs; Religious
Experience; Other.
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Answer:
Historical proof
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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Scotland, Wales and England
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What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?
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It's hard to think of Brit-Am doing more than it already is to enlighten the masses.
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Do you find our message convincing?
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Most convincing
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What do you particularly like about it?
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The degree of proof from a host of sources.
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What do you dislike?====
N/A
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Proposed Publications.
Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: Yes
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c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being
equal) would you prefer?
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Answer:
(b)
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Is there anything else we could do to spread the message?
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Maximise the use of social networking to spread the message.
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Appeals
Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer:
Yes
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Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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No
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Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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Answer:
No
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Are they likely to have an effect on you, i.e. would you donate
because of them?
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Answer: Occasionally
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YouTube Clips.
We have now begun to concentrate a little on YouTube clips. The
response on the whole has not been overwhelming but it does exist and
appears justified.
Do you have any comments on this:
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Keep it up. The effect will be exponential.
7. Response from: Mrs. Elizabeth Mewhinney
Do you wish your answers to remain (a) anonymous? (b) Not anonymous but sensitive issues not publicized in my name; (c) No need for any anonymity but all may be made public.
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Answer: c)
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Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you just mildly interested in the possibility?
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Answer: strong belief
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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Answer: fulfillment of Biblical blessings
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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Answer: England, Scotland, Ireland, Western Europe
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Do you find our message convincing?
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Answer: Very Convincing
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What do you particularly like about it?
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Answer: Multiple sources used
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Proposed Publications.
Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
a. Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: Yes
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b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: Yes
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c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being equal) would you prefer?
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Answer: A) because b) is already out there
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Appeals
Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer: yes
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Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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Answer: no
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Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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Answer: no
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Are they likely to have an effect on you, i.e. would you donate because of them?
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Answer: I have donated, when able
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If you already donate, can you say why?
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Answer: I believe this is worthwhile.
Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you just
mildly interested in the possibility?
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Answer: I find the evidence compelling and I lean heavily that I am, but I
will always have doubts.
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single factor
you can mention that initiated this belief?
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Answer: the Lord God - I believe He led me through a series of discoveries,
about Him and about myself, that eventually brought me to this.
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Answer:
Which of the following would you consider the most important in leading to
an identification with this message:
Instinct; Bible; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs; Religious
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Experience; Other. All
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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Answer: England, Finland, Sweden, Scotland, Native American. I most identify
with England/Scotland/Native American as I was raised by my mother and
grandparents. My grandmother was Scottish & Native American. My grandfather
who took the role of father to me was a Putnam, Putnams (Puttenhams) from
England were one of the founding families of New England.
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What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?
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Answer: An active facebook page
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Do you find our message convincing?
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Answer: Absolutely, the best source of information I have seen
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What do you particularly like about it?
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Answer: It is factual, not sensational
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Is there anything else we could do to spread the message?
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Answer: This would be a huge undertaking but I would love a 10-tribes Study
Bible!
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Appeals
Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer: Yes
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Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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Answer: It makes me feel bad because so many of us here in the U.S. are
hurting economically and can't help as much as we'd like
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Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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Answer: No
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Are they likely to have an effect on you, i.e. would you donate because of
them?
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Answer: Yes
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If you already donate, can you say why?
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Answer: I haven't donated in a long time, again I feel bad about that
9. Response from Brian Patmore (Australia)
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Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are youjust mildly interested in the possibility?
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> Answer: Strongly
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> If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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> Answer: Yahudi descent from two sources.
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Which of the following would you consider the most important in leading to an identification with this message:
Instinct; Bible; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs; Religious Experience; Other.
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> Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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> Answer: Ireland, Spain, Scotland, Wales, Italy, Germany, Scandinavia etc etc
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What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?
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> Answer: Use the words that come out of the mouth of Abba directly and through his Holy Neviim (Prophets).
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> Do you find our message convincing?
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> Answer: Yes and in confirmation.
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> What do you particularly like about it?
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> Answer: Not slanted to any point of view or agenda.
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What do you dislike?> ====
Answer: Maybe more Torah proofs to Yisrael.> ====
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> Proposed Publications.
> Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
> a. Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
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> Answer: Yes
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> b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.
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> Answer: Yes
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> c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being
> equal) would you prefer?
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Answer: Biblical backed by both historical proofs and Abba's evidence in concrete around the world. (e.g. Mt Sennai in Arabia/Eretz Midian, remains of pharo's army at the bottom of the Red Sea.
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Is there anything else we could do to spread the message?
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> Answer: We are doing it with Torah as our base already and spreading the word amoungst Beit Yisrael and Yahudah.
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> Appeals
> Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer: Yes
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> Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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> Answer: Not at all and in fact go along with Torah commandments to spread the word.
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> Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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> Answer: Not at all.
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> Web-Site
> We now have two main functioning sites.
> We hope shortly to upgrade and improve the first site:
> http://britam.org
> Do you have any suggestions?> ====
> Answer:No you are doing correctly and Abba will bless you more than you can imagine.
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> YouTube Clips.
> We have now begun to concentrate a little on YouTube clips. The
> response on the whole has not been overwhelming but it does exist and
> appears justified.
> Do you have any comments on this:
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> Answer: Correct avenue to follow and do not be afraid to say what you believe. Stick to your guns
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> Are there any other issues you would like deal with?
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Answer: My wish for the whole family to unite is a strong one. However, I see the main obstacle in the minds of both house members is one of holding on to traditions without testing them as commanded by Abba. He admonishes us to test all things and not to let anything be added to or taken away from His word so that the effects he wants for us are not diminished in any way.
10. Response from Holly Ellison Henderson
(c) No need for any anonymity but all may be made public.====
Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you
just mildly interested in the possibility?
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Answer: YES
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single
factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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Answer: Conversations between my paternal grandfather and his mother-in-law (my father's maternal grandmother) who was from Breslau, (Prussia) admitting that she was Jewish.
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Which of the following would you consider the most important in
leading to an identification with this message:
Instinct; Bible; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs; Religious
Experience; Other. ====Answer: Instinct
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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Answer: England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Slovakia, India, (Roma), Angola, Cherokee Indian
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What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?
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Answer: I appreciate all of your work; your written information is very detailed. There is so much history to recount and to keep it all organized and understandable is a great feat. Your accent is very thick and sometimes hard to understand. Could you include subtitles or text with the video for one to follow along? Or would that just be too much "extra" work?
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Do you find our message convincing?
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Answer: ABSOLUTELY!
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What do you particularly like about it?
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Answer: EVERYTHING; especially the tribe characteristics and their locations; surnames and the Ephramite Criteria.
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What do you dislike?
The Search button feature on britam.org needs to be larger and at the top of the webpage. I can never find it on the webpage.
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Proposed Publications.
Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
a. Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: Yes
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b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: Yes
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c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being
equal) would you prefer?
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Answer: Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
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Is there anything else we could do to spread the message?
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Answer: My suggestion would be for you to reach out to some of the American preachers who teach about Hebraic roots and suggest a joint partnership with their ministries.
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Appeals
Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer: Yes
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Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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Answer: It is not your appeal for funds that creates a negative impression; I think the faltering state of the economy has negatively hit every household in America at some financial level. Every ministry I know (radio, tv, churches) are ALL in the same boat and making financial appeals. I feel bad that I can't help all of them.
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Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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Answer: No; I give when I can...
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Are they likely to have an effect on you, i.e. would you donate
because of them?
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Answer: Yes
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If you already donate, can you say why?
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Answer: Because you made the appeal and you need the resources; I believe that God will bless me because I am blessing the Jewish people- my heritage.
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YouTube Clips.
We have now begun to concentrate a little on YouTube clips. The
response on the whole has not been overwhelming but it does exist and
appears justified.
Do you have any comments on this:
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Answer: Are you also listing the youtube links on your Facebook page? Do you have a Twitter account to list the clips there too? Do you send out press releases when you have a major finding or new publication debut?
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Are there any other issues you would like deal with?
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Answer: Oil in Israel; the possible war with Iran.
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Are you Prepared to Help Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations?
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Answer: Yes, with G-d's help!
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Help should take the form of financial support (where possible, if it
is not possible then no) or AS WELL as spreading the message through
the Internet or in other ways.
Do you agree with the above? If not, why not?
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Answer: Yes, and I do spread the word often and give sometimes.
11. Response from Anonymous 7
Answer: I wish for the survey to remain anonymous. I will let you know when I wish to remain anonymous if I send comments.
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Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you just mildly interested in the possibility?
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Answer: Yes, I am not sure whether the H... were Benyamin or Ephraim. I suspect one of that clan may have gotten a bride in Shiloh and became an Ephraimite. This may account for why they are listed both ways in the Tanach.
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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My German teacher said the name was not German and then when I started studying Hebrew I found it in the Torah. Also my grandpa lived just like Tevia in Fiddler on the Roof. The family had migrated to the Pale from Switzerland when another branch moved to America when they were pushed to make decisions about staying with their land if they signed up with the church or loose it if they didn't.
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Which of the following would you consider the most important in leading to an identification with this message:
Instinct; Bible; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs; Religious Experience; Other.
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Answer: All of the preceding.
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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Answer:
1300reds in Switzerland. No known place before that. But the DNA trail is heavier from Spain then Ireland but it is in both places.
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What could be done to enhance the Presentation of this issue?
Answer:There are things I can say/teach Christians to help them see the issue of Joseph and Judah becoming one. I try to pick only those I think are able to handle the information. Many times it helps them decide whether they are interested in the subject. It takes a series of lessons though. The books help if they ask for more proof. I think it is best handled by seminars where people can choose to go for information, or very carefully be aware of who is interested before giving information on a one on or small group situation. We don't need to put people off.
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Do you find our message convincing?
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Answer: It was an encouragement to me initially when I was running into the subject in the Tanach.
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What do you particularly like about it?
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Answer: It is a way to call people to more Faith in God and take steps toward what he wants in his world which will enhance their relationship with the Father. It all concerns what he is doing in Israel and the witness it will be in the world to bring the peace and righteousness this world needs
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c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being equal) would you prefer?
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Answer: Probably prophecy explained as you have in the pass handles both ideas.
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Appeals
Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer: yes
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Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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Answer: I don't make decisions based on my impressions but sometimes I feel like it is too much.
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Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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Answer: No, I read depending on subject and time.
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Are they likely to have an effect on you, i.e. would you donate because of them?
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Answer: NO
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Are you Prepared to Help Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations?
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Answer: I have
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Do you agree with the above? If not, why not?
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Answer: I don't know how to answer this one. I try to hear God speak to me. This is more important then I don't worry about whether I did the right thing or not.
12. Response from Rein van Ekeren (the Netherlands)
Do you wish your answers to remain (a) anonymous? (b) Not anonymous
but sensitive issues not publicized in my name; (c) No need for any
anonymity but all may be made public.
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Answer: C
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Do you strongly believe you are descended from Israel? Or are you
just mildly interested in the possibility?
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Answer: I do believe that I'm descended from Israel and I'm strongly interested
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If you do believe you are descended from Israel is there one single
factor you can mention that initiated this belief?
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Answer: Interest within the family, some surnames in my family, lack of anti-semitism, love for the people of Israel.
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Which of the following would you consider the most important in
leading to an identification with this message:
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Answer: Bible (reading/studying; Contemporary Events; Historical Proofs;
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Where do your ancestors come from as far as you can tell?
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father's side:
granddad: surname Ekeren drives from Ekris in the middle of the Netherlands but it's written in a various way (Ekeris, Ekris, Eekeren, Eeckeren etc.) it is a former parish in the neighbourhood of the former Dorestad, a trade city in Viking times. The name is also known in Belgium near Antwerp. It's an old trading city too. Someone told me that Ekeren came from Ekeron in Sweden Stockholm.
Grandmother: surname Ton came out of an trading family from Northern Germany in the 19th century that was once a part of Denmark.
Mother's side
granddad: surname Creveceur, an old french family of nobility. They intermarried with Spanish nobility. In the 14th century my part of the family came to Henegouwen. Later, in times of persecutions because of [their] protestant believe they came to the Netherlands.
Grandmother: surname Koning. When I worked at the Jewish graveyard I found this name often. They told me that koning drives from Cohanien. It is a family of teachers and preachers
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Answer: absolutely! Although there are some subjects that I do see on an other way
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What do you particularly like about it?
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Answer: You give information that I can't find (I haven't got time for searching by myself as you do)
It often happens that your information appears months before I can read it on an other place (newspaper / book)
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What do you dislike?
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sometimes you have to give answers at questions to people who know nearly nothing about the ten tribes or Juda.
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Proposed Publications.
Would you prefer a new work dealing with:
a. Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes.
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Answer: I think its important to remember, that although we're separated, we're still both part of the people of Israel, the people of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
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b. Historical Evidence concerning the Ten Tribes.
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There's already a lot but keep on going!
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c. Which of the above two proposed books (all other things being
equal) would you prefer?
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Answer: Biblical Prophecy and the Ten Tribes
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Is there anything else we could do to spread the message?
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Answer: for a lot of people in the Netherlands it's difficult to read your books. It's too much new information at once. They can't read the books because of a lack of knowledge of the English language. I don't know the answer.
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Appeals
Do you read our appeals for funds?
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Answer: Yes
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Do these appeals for funds create a negative impression?
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Answer: no
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Do they diminish your zest for reading our other messages?
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Answer: no
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Are they likely to have an effect on you, i.e. would you donate
because of them?
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Answer: sometimes (I'm so sorry, I am just an ordinary teacher and not a millionaire)
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If you already donate, can you say why?
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Answer: Because it's important that your message come to the world, I do believe in the (main) message you're bringing. I learned the message as a child by my parents (for 40 years now). It's important to me so it's important to others.
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Web-Site
We now have two main functioning sites.
We hope shortly to upgrade and improve the first site:
http://britam.org
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No (maybe some articles in other languages)
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Do you have an Obligation to Help this cause
Are you Prepared to Help Brit-Am/Hebrew Nations?
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Answer: yes, I'll try to speak about the Ten Tribes, for example with my preacher, my children, friends. Sometime I do sent some mony.
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Help should take the form of financial support (where possible, if it
is not possible then no) or AS WELL as spreading the message through
the Internet or in other ways.
Do you agree with the above? If not, why not?
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Answer: yes I do agree
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Continued in Answers 3.