by Dr. Chris Johnsen with Notes by Yair Davidiy (8 May 2017, 12 Iyar, 5777)
1. Introduction by Yair Davidiy
2. Extracts from "Germany and Edom" by Yair Davidiy
3.Â Â Odin and Homosexuality by Dr. Chris Johnsen
4.Â Is there any difference between Wotan and Odin?Â byÂ Dr. Chris JohnsenÂ
1. Introduction by Yair Davidiy
In our article about Adolf Hitler we mention the Nordic god Odin.
Would Adolf Hitler marry Blondi instead if Eva Braun didn't show interest in him?
# In 1889, the artist Franz Von Stuck painted "The Wild Chase." It depicts Odin the hunter on horseback in a ferocious pursuit. Hitler admired this work and may have modeled his own appearance on the image depicted. There is a strong resemblance. The followers of Odin practiced a form of sorcery that was believed to involve "a receptive, passive role of a freeborn man during homosexual intercourse." Its acolytes were avoided as being effeminate. #
Whether or not the original worship of Odin involved homosexuality is of secondary importance to us, if at all.
Concerning Hitler we may say that he definitely was a sexual pervert. He also studied the Occult, pagan religions, and Nordic myths.
He was also mostly a vegetarian. In the same way as no-one would say vegetarians are bad people because of the Hitler association, so too with other matters.
The acquaintance Hitler had with Nordic Mythology was through the southern German version of it, the interpretations made by the musician Wagner, and the imaginations of folkish quacks that were rife in Austria and Germany at the trun of the century. The end result may have been quite different from the Scandinavian version. In fact in Scandinavia the giant people were usually depicted as foreign and as the arch enemy of the Aseir meaning the people of Odin. Hitler, on the other hand, identified with the giants and seems to have considered himself as a descendant of one.
The height of Hitler was 5 foot eight. Today this a about average but in his time it was taller than most. Pictures of Adolf reviewing a parade of troopers often seem to show him as taller than most of them. [Other pictures however do not show this.] As a child he had been described as a tall boy.
At all events,
Dr Christopher Johnsen wrote to us challenging the accuracy of some of the statements we had made concerning Odin.
Our impression that worship of Odin had homoerotic links seemed to be confirmed by an entry in Wikipedia.
In correspondence with Dr Christopher Johnsen, we said:
# The followers of Odin practiced a form of sorcery that was believed to involve "a receptive, passive role of a freeborn man during homosexual intercourse." Its acolytes were avoided as being effeminate. #
Â Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The practice of seidr (sorcery) was considered ergi in the Viking Age, and in Icelandic accounts and medieval Scandinavian laws, the term argr had connotations of a receptive, passive role of a freeborn man during homosexual intercourse.Â
The article below is based on the replies ofÂ Dr Johnsen.
Odin is the name used in Germany. It may have been pronounced more like "Othin." InÂ Scandianvia and among the Anglo-Saxons the name was rendered as "Wotan."
Dr Johnsen relates the name Odin to that of the demon Asmodeus in ancient Jewish folk-lore.
2. Extracts from "Germany and Edom" by Yair Davidiy
It is worth noting that in work "Germany and Edom," by Yair Davidiy we discuss sources that equate Odin with the Celtic god Essus also rendered as Essuvus which is similar to the Modern Hebrew pronunciation of the name Esau (Esav).
Before the Romans came, we find the name Esau reconstructed as Esus in Gaul. Already in Tyre of Phoenicia, according to the Phoenician source Sanchuniathon, Esau was known as Ousoos.
In Hebrew we have the word "ezuz" connoting "extremely strong".
8 Who is the King of glory?
The Lord strong and mighty,
The Lord mighty in battle.Â
The word translated above as "strong" in Hebrew is "AZUZ". This is from the root "az" or "oz" connoting strong, intense, and fierce. In Europe in the north there was a period when the "z" sound was lost and replaced with "s". Azuz would have become "asus" or "esus". It has been suggested that the name Esus had a similar meaning.
Jone's Celtic Encyclopedia
Likely originally Aisus, possibly from the PIE [Proto-Indo-European] *eis- "passion", or *ais- "to respect". Thus the name means either "The Furious One" (like the Germanic Wodan-az, with whom Esus is often compared), or "The Respected One."
Other explanations may be found and are also possible. There is no necessary contradiction. The name 'Esus' probably derives from the Phoenician 'Ousos' meaning Esau but his name could also have been understood to be linked with other word-roots (in Hebrew, Celtic, or German) of similar sound. Esus gave rise to Odin who in Germany was also known as Koz which was another name for Esau.
The name Edom may have been pronounced as 'Odin'. The very name 'Odin' may also have been understood (like the name 'Edom') to relate to a word root connoting 'brown' or 'red' as in the English word 'dun'. [The term 'Odin' was rendered as 'Wotun' amongst the Anglo-Saxons and Scandinavians. The German Odin however was different and not necessarily the same as the Wotun of Scandinavia and England]. Odin in Germany was known as the 'Wild Hunter'. Esau also had been called 'A Warrior of the Hunt' (Genesis 25:27). Another name for Odin in Germany was K'os E4, i.e. "Kos." The national god of the Idumeans of Edom southeast of Judah was also known as Kas or Kos. This may be a dialectical version of the appellation 'Esau'E5.
We thus find: Both Esau and Odin being named by the same cognomen, 'Kos'; Odin being a hunter like Esau; The image of Odin as derived from Esus; and the name Esus in its turn resembling a form of the name Esau. The name Odin may also be a derivative of 'Edom'. In addition, we also had, in West Germany the goddess Ros Merta whose name means 'Edom the Magnificant'. Ros Merta was the female consort of Esus.
3. Odin and Homosexuality by Dr. Chris Johnsen
Unfortunately, Wikipedia is unreliable for Norse Mythology as are most other sources.
The practice that you are referring to called 'Ergi' or homosexual intercourse was thought to be a practice of the Finnish magician/sorcerers.Â Odin was not a Finn, however, he was known to practice 'Seidr' which was known as a 'woman's art', - this is where the confusion lies.Â Just because it is a 'woman's art' does not mean that it is sexual intercourse and this belief reflects a prejudice that women are only good for 'one thing.'Â To insult a man in the Old Norse period, as during most periods of time, to call him a woman or say that he practiced homosexual sex because he spun thread was simple cultural derogation of 'womanly activities' and does not mean that he actually did these things.
Seidr was a type of meditation practice that women practiced that was integrally related to spinning thread.Â They could 'while away' the time spinning and use it as a type of concentration aid.Â Thus 'spinning' or 'twirling' was the meaning showing an obvious association with time keeping and the ancient Lunar Nakshatra system for time keeping.
As Wikipedia says: Â
Seidr is believed to come from Proto-Germanic *saidaz, cognate with Lithuanian saitas, "sign, soothsaying" and Proto-Celtic *soito- "sorcery" (giving Welsh hud, Breton hud "magic"), all derived from Proto-Indo-European *soi-to- "string, rope", ultimately from the Proto-Indo-European root *seH2i- "to bind".
Related words in Old High German (see German Saite, used both in string instruments and in bows) and Old English refer to "cord, string," or "snare, cord, halter" and there is a line in verse 15 of the skaldic poem Ragnarsdrapa that uses seidr in that sense.However, it is not clear how this derivation relates to the practice of seidr. It has been suggested that the use of a cord in attraction may be related to seidr, where attraction is one element of the practice of seidr magic described in Norse literature and with witchcraft in Scandinavian folklore. However, if seidr involved "spinning charms", that would explain the distaff, a tool used in spinning flax or sometimes wool, that appears to be associated with seidr practice.
Old English terms cognate with seidr are siden and sidsa, both of which are attested only in contexts that suggest that they were used by elves (aelfe); these seem likely to have meant something similar to seidr. Among the Old English words for practitioners of magic are wicca (m.) or wicce (f.), the etymons of Modern English "witch".
The 'binds' that Odin was supposed to have created with his Seidr were more mental than physical according to some authors and Odin was known for being the 'god of the hanged' thus his association with ropes and thread.
Many spindles for spinning were made of Amber in the Teutonic lands and this caused static electricity to be generated, which looked like magic with bits of cloth and straw being attracted to the spinning weight by invisible forces.
This is the real reason that Odin, as a type of 'Wizard King' was associated with the 'Magic' of Seidr and not homosexual sex.Â Â Odin was a god of Marriage and Keeping OATHS, thus his name 'OTHINN' and the 'Odin Rock' where couples were married after their hands were joined through the hole.Â Â Norse people derogated the practice of homosexuality and their chief god did not engage in Homosexual sex.
4. Is there any difference between Wotan and Odin?Â byÂ Dr. Chris JohnsenÂ
The differences are mainly semantic.Â You will see many places describe Odin as having a 'doublet' named Odr, this is not him. It is 'Svipdag.' Wodin, Wotan, Odin, Othinn, Othinn, Odin mean the same thing," furious," as in an ecstatic fury or the 'haze' the sun gives the atmosphere that makes the sun look shaggy.Â Odin was the god of the atmosphere and the wind.Â In ancient Jewish sources (Book of Tobit), I believe there is an association with 'Lotan' the snake, as well and possibly an association with Asmodeus, due to the meaning 'fury' and also 'Aesir' the name of the Norse gods of Odin's clan, forming the 'As' in 'Asmodeus.'Â In the deuterocanonical Book of Tobit, (see Wikipedia:) in which Asmodeus is the primary antagonist. The demon, Asmodeus, is also mentioned in some Talmudic legends; for instance, in the story of the construction of the Temple of Solomon. He was supposed by some Renaissance Christians to be the King of the Nine Hells. Asmodeus also is referred to as one of the seven princes of Hell.Â
Euhemerists believe that these stories are history Â I think maybe it lies somewhere between history and calendar stories,, which they DEFINITELY are, but with symbolic names for the characters they are describing.Â The book Desi - Language Speaks of the Past by Lini SrinivasanÂ shows that Rig-Vedic god names are all ancient place names of City states with many of them in Egypt, Sumer, Canaan, Persia, Libya and Lebanon.
It is my belief after over a decade of studying Norse Mythology that the Northern lands were considered the Underworld by the Mycenaean Greeks and the Egyptians and they considered the god Odin as the same character as Hades in the Greek myths.Â This was mainly because the North was cold and very dark in the winter and to a Mediterranean, it would be pretty Hellish!
If Odin was a real ruler of '9 worlds' in the bronze age the Kings of Cilicia, Mycenae, Crete, Phoenicia, Tyre, Saidon, Avaris and 3 other city-states of the Mittanian/Cretan federation (Hurrian royalty) made up aÂ thalassocracyÂ or sea league of 10 city states.Â Â Obviously, If Odin ruled 9 worlds, he was either in charge of only 9 (see Asmodeus), meaning he was second in command, or maybe one of the city states was destroyed or merged with another.