A Symbol of Israel was also a Symbol of the Kingdom of England.
The Tudor Rose is one of the official symbols of England and the British Monarchy.
Adapted Extract from Transcript of Brit-Am Video Lecture concerning the Tudor Rose.
Yair:
I represent "Brit-Am/ Hebrew Awareness," Brit-Am is a movement involved with the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel, finding the Lost 10 Tribes of Israel. doing research about it, encouraging discussions and involvement in researches concerning it, and the implications both on the personal and the national levels. And we are here today. We're going to discuss something about the Tudor Rose and Proof of Israelite Ancestry. Identifying the 10 Tribes and the Tudor Rose are linked. Because of this it is important. You'll see why in a minute. The Tudor Rose is a symbol, it is one of the symbols of the British Monarchy. It is still used today. It began in the time of the Tudors:
Henry-vii (r. 1485- 1509), Henry-viii (r. 1509- 1547), Edward iv (1547-1553), Mary i (1553- 1558) , Elizabeth i (1559- 1603).
Before the Tudors came to power we had the Wars of the Roses (1455 -1487). These were a series of Civil Wars between the House of York (white rose) and the House of Lancaster (red rose) over which House should rule over England. Eventually Henry Tudor representing the House of Lancaster took over. Henry wasn't very strongly related to either side but he represented the House of Lancaster. He took the throne and he married a woman who represented the Rival House of York. And so in his person, in his dynasty that he established he combined the two Houses, the two sides and the two roses, the two rose symbols. Henry combined them creating the Tudor Rose. The Tudor Rose consists of a white rose inserted over a red rose like a combination of red and white roses with the red petals being on the outside and the white petals on the inside. There are five white petals and five red petals surrounding them. And there may, there may have been a real rose at that time, a type of a breed of rose that looked like that. So it's undecided. Some people say there was such a rose, or could have been such a rose, Others say "No!" - That is the pictures of such a rose are the products of artistic license. Someone invented them and painted them up. Whatever the case the Tudor Rose is a symbol.
Important changes came to England under the Tudors who were of Welsh origin. The personal banner of Henry-vii had depicted a Welsh Dragon.
Henry VII (r. 1485- 1509) was quite important in his own right. He stabilized the Kingdom, strengthened the monarchy and the finances of the realm, In many ways he was quite conservative but he brought stabilization.
At that time England was relatively speaking a small country with only one-fifth the population of France. {It was only later in the 1700s and the Agricultural and Industrial Revolutions that the population of England began to grow.}
Under the Tudors England became a modern country. It became a national country, somewhat different than previously it had been.
The son of Henry vii, Henry viii (r. 1509- 1547) initiated the English Reformation defying Pope Clement and breaking the Ecclesiastical submission to Rome. Henry had 6 wives, one after the other. Two of them he executed. Henry fought wars with France, with the Holy Roman Empire (i.e. Germany), and with Scotland. He expanded the Royal Navy and strengthened English control over Wales and Ireland. Henry wrote books on theology and composed music.
And in general one can say Henry-viii separated his Church from the Church of Rome. And he took an individualist stand on international issues in several ways. And also culturally a type of Renaissance began under the Tudors. Then England began to become a great country. Under Henry VIII a new middle class was created. There was a break with Rome. Henry seized all of the properties of the Church that comprised 20 % of all lands and properties in the Kingdom. It wasn't that the Church had been leeching the rest of the population. They provided employment and a livelihood to a great many people. They performed a social function and when Henry-viii seized these properties there was a certain dislocation socially. But nevertheless it was a change for the better. A new Middle Class was encouraged. People were able to buy up former Church properties. They became the Middle Class and they had a stake in the changes that Henry was enacting. Another thing that a lot of people don't know about Henry viii is important: Marrano Jews were allowed to enter England! The Jews had been expelled from England in 1290. Henry allowed Marrano Jews to enter England. There may already have been Marranos there. Marrano Jews, Jews who were Marranos were descendants of Jews also known as "Anusim," - "The Forced Ones" that were descends of Jews who became Christians under the pressure of Spain. When Spain expelled its Jews it gave the option to anyone who wished to remain, any Jew wished to remain, that they could become Christian. Being expelled in some cases meant the difference between life and death. It wasn't so simple and so a lot of them did become Christian. But they tried to remain secretly Jewish and so there was an Inquisition. The Church was persecuting them, chasing after them. And a lot of them went to Holland where they could remain. Eventually they could declare themselves as to what they were and even before then they could be practicing Judaism without saying anything and no one would really interfere with him. But Spain tried to harm them. Spain ruled over the Lowlands, that is both Holland and Belgium. And Spain tried to persecute the Jews in the Netherlands. Henry was married at first to the daughter of the King of Spain and he had a certain influence there in the Netherlands so in at least one case he did what he could to alleviate, to influence Spain to let up a little somewhat concerning the Jewish. Henry had a certain sympathy for Jews. He also had a Talmud written, handwritten, on his behalf. That was before the use of the printing press. And he took an interest. At the beginning of his reign Henry had at his court a group of musicians who were all Marranos from Italy. The Papal delegate protested so Henry sent them away and then brought them back again. There were other musicians at the Court of Henry some of whom may have been regular Ashkenazi Jews who kept quiet about their religion. On another occasion however Henry had six Portuguese Marrano musicians imprisoned and their property confiscated. Two of the six died in prison while the rest were released. Henry broke with Rome initially because he wanted a divorces from his Spanish wife and the Pope would not give it to him. In his arguments with the Papal authorities the agents of Henry quoted from Jewish sources and consulted with Marrano experts in Jewish matters.
https://forward.com/culture/4829/jews-in-the-court/
Henry was quite a scholar in his own right, at least in his younger years. H did other things. He also cut off quite a few heads. He was a bit eccentric but on the whole the kingdom went forward.
After Henry came Edward (1547-1553), and after him Mary (1553- 1558), and then Elizabeth (1559- 1603).
Elizabeth also was friendly with Jews. She knew Hebrew. She had learned Hebrew along with other languages. She had a friend, a confidante who was a Marranno. Elizabeth tried to persuade her confidante to become a Christian, or gave her the option of converting to Christianity or leaving the country. So the woman left the country but there had been a friendship, that friendship had existed for a while. And Elizabeth apparently also had either considered the English to be descended from the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel, or she spoke as if they were. Maybe she considered it so, meant it in a spiritual sense, but she often, or on quite a few occasions, she referred to the English People and herself, her own Kingdom as Israel. Francis Drake the seaman who in the time of Elizabeth successfully led the English Fleet against Spain also referred to England as "Israel."
The Tudor Rose symbol is still used by Royalty, It's still there, still around. Wikipedia tells us about the Tudor Rose, "The Tudor Rose, sometimes called the 'Unity Rose.' it's a traditional floral Heraldic emblem of England and takes its name and Origins from the House of Tudor which United the House of Lancaster and the House of York. The Tudor Rose consists of five white inner petals, that is the inside petals, representing the House of York and five red outer pedals to represent the House of Lancaster.
The Tudor Rose is incorporated as part of the badge of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom. The Tudor Rose represents England alongside the floral badges of the other constituent parts of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Different military units, townships, organizations, etc,.in both Britain and the USA make use of the Tudor Rose in their symbols.
Brit-Am/Hebrew Awareness, Movement of the Lost Ten Tribes uses the Tudor Rose as one of its symbols, the other being the Lion Flag of Jerusalem.
The Tudor Rose is very similar to a description in the Zohar concerning the House of Israel.
In the very beginning of the Zohar it speaks of the House of Israel. it compares it to a rose with 13 red and white petals.
The Zohar is a book of several volumes. It's a book, a religious book, that Jews use. It was first publicized by Moses de Leon on 1243, in Castile, in Spain, before the Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492.
Brit-Am/Hebrew Awareness considers the ten petals to represent the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel.
England being (together with the USA) the leading nation of the Ten Tribes makes use of this symbol without being conscious of its real significance.
The Tudor Rose links us to the Zohar.
The Zohar refers to the 13 petals of the rose representing 13 Tribes.
The Tribes of Israel actually are 13 in number.
The Bible maintains a quorum of 12 Tribes by either not including Levi (which was scattered among the others), or by counting Ephraim and Manasseh as the one Tribe of Joseph.
You have 12 sons of Israel including Joseph. Joseph however became two tribes, Ephraim and Manasseh.
That makes 13. Three of these Tribes (Judah, Benjamin, Levi) became dominant in the Kingdom of Judah and gave rise to the Jewish People.
There remained 10 Tribes that formed their own Kingdom and were all exiled. They became the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel.
The Tudor Rose is in effect the Rose of Israel is the same as the Tudor Rose except for the the Tudor Rose only having 10 petals instead of 13. Since England repsents Ephraim and so heads the Ten Tribes in stead of all 13 of them then the Tudor Rose having only 10 petals is appropriate.
The sacred Jewish book known as the Zohar refers to the 13 Tribes and what sounds like a version of the Tudor Rose!
What is the Zohar?
The Zohar consists of several volumes of commentary on the Bible and Judaism.
It is often mystical and uses symbolic imagery that is sometimes difficult to follow. The language used is either Hebrew or Aramaic or its own mixture of the two.
The Zohar was first publicized by Rabbi Moses de Leon (c. 1240 - 1305 CE, Castille, Spain).
The Zohar is presented mainly as the sayings of Rabbi Simeon ben Yochai c. 100 CE in the Land of Israel.
It may perhaps be considered a complication of different sources (like the Midrash) that were brought together and later edited and re-edited over the centuries.
Some modern authorities claim the Zohar is a forgery. Rabbi Moses de Leon (who first had it published) is alleged by some to have been its real author.
Religious Jews who wish to reject the Zohar would not necessarily be censured for doing so.
Nevertheless the Zohar does correspond to much older sources.
Most Great Rabbis quote from the Zohar though some do not relate to it.
Most of the Sephardic Rabbis, the Hasidim, most of the Ultra-Orthodox, consider the Zohar a sacred work.
Rabbi Avraham Kook once opined that regardless of whoever wrote it it is still an inspired work.
Our personal opinion for what it is worth is that it cannot be rejected altogether.
Jews who learn the Zohar often find it inspiring and feel uplifted by it.
The opening passage of the Zohar says:
"`AS THE ROSE AMONG THE THORNS, SO IS MY LOVE AMONG THE MAIDENS' (SONG OF SOLOMON 2:2): WHAT IS THE ROSE: IT IS THE ASSEMBLAGE OF ISRAEL, THE COMMUNITY OF ISRAEL. FOR THERE IS A ROSE (ABOVE) AND A ROSE (BELOW). JUST AS THE ROSE WHICH IS AMONG THE THORNS HAS RED AND WHITE, SO DOES THE ASSEMBLAGE OF ISRAEL HAVE JUSTICE AND MERCY. JUST AS A ROSE HAS THIRTEEN PETALS, SO DOES THE ASSEMBLAG (Hebrew: "KNESSET") OF ISRAEL HAVE THIRTEEN MEASURES OF COMPASSION ENCOMPASSING IT ON ALL SIDES. "...FIVE STRONG LEAVES SURROUND THE ROSE..."
This in effect is a description of the Tudor Rose with its red and white petals. Some of the offically-recognized versions of the Tudor Rose also have it surrounded by thorns like the rose described by the Zohar.
The only difference between the Tudor Rose and that of Israel as depicted in the Zohar is that in the Zohar the rose has 13 petals (13 Tribes of Israel) whereas the Tudor Rose has ten.
In Brit-Am/Hebrew Awareness thought England at that time represented Joseph (Ephraim and Manasseh since the USA did not then exist) and Joseph heads the Ten Tribes of Israel, hence the ten petals.
This why the Tudor Rose with ten petals has been adopted by Brit-Am/Hebrew Awareness as its main symbol.
The Prophet Hosea compares Israel to a "Shoshana" translated as "lily" but actually meaning rose.
Hosea 14:
5 I WILL BE LIKE THE DEW TO ISRAEL;
HE SHALL GROW LIKE THE LILY [SHOSHANA, i.e. ROSE]
AND LENGTHEN HIS ROOTS LIKE LEBANON.
The word translated as "LILY" in Hebrew is "shoshana." This word actually means a rose which (as a rosette) was a symbol of royalty in Ancient Israel and in other nations [There was an article in Biblical Archaeological Review on this]. It is prophesied that Israel "SHALL GROW LIKE THE SHOSHANA" i.e. the rose. The Tudor Rose of England was also a symbol of Royalty.
A Rose Garden by the Temple Entrance
During Second Temple times the Gate of Caponis was to the West of the Temple Mount. This was the Main Entrance for entering and leaving. It was relatively small but was considered the most important of all the Gateways because the Divine Presence is in the West. "Caponis" implies "Head" in Greek. Others say that "caponis" is derived from a Greek word meaning "Garden." It was given this name since just outside the Gate there was a rose garden (Mishnah Midot 1:3; Tosefot Yom Tov quoting "Shiltei Giborim").
Hosea 14:
8 EPHRAIM SHALL SAY, WHAT HAVE I TO DO ANYMORE WITH IDOLS?
I HAVE HEARD AND OBSERVED HIM.
I AM LIKE A GREEN CYPRESS TREE;
YOUR FRUIT IS FOUND IN ME.
In the End Times Ephraim, i.e. the Lost Ten Tribes,. will realize that only through the LORD God of Israel can they find salvation. All their National Blessings and greatness came to them through HIM though they chose to deny it. In the End Times it will be made known to them and they shall return.
HOSEA 14:
9 WHO IS WISE?
LET HIM UNDERSTAND THESE THINGS.
WHO IS PRUDENT?
LET HIM KNOW THEM.
FOR THE WAYS OF THE LORD ARE RIGHT;
THE RIGHTEOUS WALK IN THEM,
BUT TRANSGRESSORS STUMBLE IN THEM.
The Lost Ten Tribes are amongst the Western Nations. The Lost Ten Tribes need to repent. This applies especially to Ephraim meaning the English-speaking nations. Ephraim will repent as Hosea predicted. This has been explained in the Commentary to Hosea ch.14 by Rabbi David Moshe Valle written in the 1700s but mostly just been made public in our time.
# ... THE IMPURITY AND DEBASEMENT OF THE TEN TRIBES WAS NOT THEIR TRUE NATURE. THE POWER OF REPENTANCE CAN ELEVATE A PERSON TO A GREATER HEIGHT THAN HE EVER HAD BEFORE. THE ISRAELITES HAVE AN INNATE PURITY.
THEY THEREFORE DO NOT HAVE TO TRY VERY HARD TO RETURN TO WHERE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IF THEY HAD NOT SINNED.
THE NON-ISRAELITE PEOPLE ARE NOT LIKE THIS....
IT IS A KNOWN MATTER THAT EPHRAIM DID NOT DESCEND INTO THE REALMS OF POLLUTION OTHER THAN FOR THE NEED TO CLARIFY HIS DESTINY.
HE NEEDED TO FULFILL THE WILL OF GOD AND REFORM THE WORLD THROUGH REDIRECTING ITS FORCES. WHEN THIS IS DONE THERE WILL BE NO NEED FOR EPHRAIM TO REMAIN IN THAT SITUATION ANY MORE. #
Source: Rabbi Moshe David Valle on Hosea ch.14.
The other symbol often used by Brit-Am is the Jerusalem Lion emblem of Jerusalem.
See Also:
Tudor Rose.
The Tudor Rose Symbol of ALL Israel!
https://hebrewnations.com/articles/myth/rose.html
The United States Congress in 1986 chose the rose as the national flower of the USA.
Poppies and Roses The poppie is quite different from the rose but its red color scheme is similar. The Poppie is important in Brtain and France as commemorating those who fell in battle on behalf of the Homeland. It is also the national flower of both Belgium and the State of Israel. The State of Israel is dominated by Judah along with many from Benjamin and Levi and other Tribes. Belgium has many from Benjamin.
Comment by Steve Mathe: All right I don't think I have a lot of comments about the House of Tudor, House of York, at this time. It's all your research. But it is an amazing Revelation, or Record, I would say: From the Zohar, an independent Source that's not connected to either House of York or House of the Tutors or the English-speaking World, Period. It's in the Jewish world and that's important verification of who's who? Who's Ephraim? Coming to light now in our days. It's been there for centuries but it's not been known. So now it's being advertised. So it's broadcast out into the English-speaking world.