Ten Tribes Studies (22 November, 2013, 19 Kislev, 5774)
Contents:
1. New Article: ZEBULUN -- HOLLAND. A STUDY OF TEN PROPHETIC CLUES by Bert Otten
2. Another Question on the USA being Manasseh and not Ephraim. The Harbinger and Ephraim.
3. New Article. Israelite Goyim (upgraded and expanded). Ephrayim is a Plurality of Peoples by John Thornton
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1. New Article: ZEBULUN -- HOLLAND. A STUDY OF TEN PROPHETIC CLUES by Bert Otten
http://hebrewnations.com/articles/tribes/netherlands/zebhol.html
Extracts:
When the Dutch Queen Beatrix visited the Knesset in 1995, prime minister Rabin spoke of the "love story between Holland and Israel."
1st Clue: To Dwell -- Dwelling
2nd Clue: Dwellings "On-Sea"
3rd Clue: Zebulun, a Haven for Ships
4th Clue: Zebulun, a Travelling People
The Netherlands is a transport land, a transit land. Rotterdam is the hub of Europe, and Amsterdam is an important port too. Transport from Rotterdam to the hinterland occurs not just by inland navigation, but by rail and by trucks too. The Dutch like to travel, the NV (Netherlands) on the number plates of trucks, coaches and tourist cars can be found all over Europe. The Dutch are caravan lovers. Cycling tours in summer and skating tours in winter are very popular in the Netherlands.
The Boers of South Africa are mainly of Dutch stock and they had their "Great Trek" (1830-1850) from the Cape towards what later was to become Natal, Orange Free State and Transvaal, in an effort to escape the influence of the English.
5th Clue: Zebulun, Abundance of the Seas
6th Clue: Zebulun, Treasures Hid in the Sand
7th Clue: Zebulun, a Compassionate People
8th Clue: Zebulun's Stone, a Diamond
9th Clue: Zebulun, Writers, Book-Printing
10th Clue: Zebulun and Judah (Jews)
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2. Another Question on the USA being Manasseh and not Ephraim. The Harbinger and Ephraim.
Debi Fields wrote:
Yair,
Last year, Rabbi Jonathan Cahn wrote "The Harbinger", detailing the stunning parallels between Israel's first smackdown by the Assyrians and the 9/11 attacks on the twin towers on Wall Street in New York City. His basis for everything is Isaiah 9:10, which speaks of the bricks falling and being replaced with hewn stone, and the sycamores being felled and replaced by cedars, all of which happened in 2001. Leaders of the USA at least TWICE publicly and proudly proclaimed "we WILL REBUILD", and quoted from this very verse.
Given that the PRECEDING two verses speak directly to the peoples who would be the recipients of this "word" sent, and the fact that it specifically addresses Ephraim/Samaria (as well as Jacob/Israel), and there is NO MENTION of "Manasseh", how can you possibly still stubbornly cling to your position that America is Manasseh, and Great Britain is Ephraim?
8 The Lord sent a word into Jacob, and it hath lighted upon Israel.
9 And all the people shall know, even Ephraim and the inhabitant of Samaria, that say in the pride and stoutness of heart,
10 The bricks are fallen down, but we will build with hewn stones: the sycomores are cut down, but we will change them into cedars.
1--This event did not take place in the physical country called Israel today.
2--This event did not take place in Great Britain, which you believe to be "Ephraim".
3--This event DID take place on American soil, in the very spot where George Washington dedicated the nation to God, the first "capital" of America.... New York City, in the very spot where the towers were felled, Ground Zero.
Please explain how you can still believe that America is not, indeed, "Ephraim".
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Brit-Am Reply:
Jonathan Cahn is not a Rabbi. There are no Messianic Rabbis, Jewish or not. Sorry.
Without discussing or even examining the opinions of Jonathan Cahn but assuming on this issue he may have a point (even if he has not) we can say:
The term Ephraim is often used as a a generic term for the Ten Tribes in general e.g. see Hosea ch.10.
Ephraim in Scripture can mean either (a) The specific Tribe named Ephraim.
(b) The Ten Tribes in general.
In this case choice (b) may be more appropriate.
Concerning the USA we have said several times:
The USA is dominated by Manasseh which has determined its national character.
It may be that despite Manasseh being dominant numerically there are more of Ephraim.
It amy also be that in our time a good portion of the Ten Tribes are tob e found in the USA population.
It should also be mentioned that Manasseh was to be the more important materially, Manasseh was to become great later, the first of the Ten Tribes to return will come from Manasseh who will lead the return; Manasseh will initiate the building of the Third Temple.
What is wrong with belonging to Manasseh?
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3. New Article. Israelite Goyim (upgraded and expanded).
Ephrayim is a Plurality of Peoples by John Thornton
http://hebrewnations.com/articles/tribes/goyim.html
Extract:
However, Ephraim (Heb. ) is the only 'son' or tribe bearing a 'plural' name, that is, his name ends in )'-im' or '-iym'...
Thus 'Ephraim' means "double ash-heap" or "doubly fruitful". ...
Of course the 'purely double' aspect is assumed, but since the word is plural, the suffix '-im' could just as easily imply two or more - in other words 'multiple' or 'many'. This is interesting when we examine the promise to Jacob (Gen 35:11) that he would sire 'a nation and a company of nations', and the later specific promise to Joseph that his son Ephraim, probably then only a child, would be a 'multitude of nations' (Gen 48:19),