Ten Tribes Studies (6 December, 2013, 6 Tevet, 5774)
Contents:
1. Comments on Yair Davidiy Hebrew Nations Channel YouTube Clips
2. Time to Take the Gloves Off? Ten Tribes in the West.
Physical Ancestry Should be Emphasized. Ephraimites should not make aliyah at present.
3. Bagpipes with a difference.
4. Clifford Riley: The O'Neils Came From Egypt!
5. New Article. Through Judah. We Live because of Religious Jews!
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1. Comments on Yair Davidiy Hebrew Nations Channel YouTube Clips
http://www.youtube.com/user/yairdavidiy?feature=results_main
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(1) Truth
Britain as Ephraim - 6 : John Bull
aFreeman0409
God's word ever true!
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(2) Enjoyed the Talk
The Celts Called Themselves Hebrews!
dan robertson
I really enjoyed your talk; very informative. This might explain some of my families black hair from the Scottish Highlands and North east England.
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(3) Did not Enjoy the Talk
Sequence of Return in Ezekiel.avi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ijNFXHX53I
James Gray
Man is this guy a total old bore, jeez he put me to sleep, monotone, no lilt or punch to his voice; no wonder his only way is on a screen, get a life, ..
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(4) Pleased with Talk
Britain as Ephraim -4: A Company of Nations
TheBICOG
good job yair. i enjoy your articles and books on the subject. Peter
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(5) very interesting!
Gillian Boyes (Facebook Comment)
re
Israelite Zebulonites in the Netherlands
http://youtu.be/6_Zh8Hu1rr8
Thank you, this was very interesting!
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(6) Appreciation from Holland
Israelite Zebulonites in the Netherlands
http://youtu.be/6_Zh8Hu1rr8
Gerben Rutenfrans
Thank you Yair, I am from Holland and I do believe I am part of the Ten Tribes, I live in the ways of [the Almighty]. Blessings from Holland
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(7) Good video!
Brad Holloway
Sequence of Return in Ezekiel.avi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ijNFXHX53I
I like the bagpipes! Good video! Look forward to returning to the Homeland of my forefathers.
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2. Time to Take the Gloves Off? Ten Tribes in the West. Physical Ancestry Should be Emphasized. Ephraimites should not make aliyah at present.
Certain irresponsible elements have taken to encouraging Ephraimites to prepare, or actually, to come to live in Israel.
They are giving a false impression and claiming to have official connivance which they do not. Neither will they have in the near future.
At the same time they either deny or downplay the fact that the Ten Tribes are in the west and are physically identifiable!
We feel that the emphasis should be in the opposite direction.
These groups were to some degree breakaway elements from Brit-Am and were set up to take support away from us. To some degree they succeeded.
On a personal level some degree of reconciliation has been effected but the ideological gulf remains.
Perhaps it is time to stop pretending?
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3. Bagpipes with a difference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vprtpdr4N9U
Not bad. Worth listening to.
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4. Clifford Riley: The O'Neils Came From Egypt!
Dear Yair,
I found Daniel Duffield's article interesting but the source he used is flawed. He sites
such as the O'Connor, O'Reilly and O'Rourke and Quinn as being descended from Niall Noigiallach they aren't. The O'Connor, O'Reilly and O'Rourke's are genetically related because they are descended from Brian the elder half brother of Niall Noghiallach, both of whom where sons of Eochu Muighmheadhon. The confusion exists because the O'Neills and the O'Reillys both use a severed hand on their coat of arms, causing some to assume that the latter is descended from the former, whilst ignoring the fact that both are descended from Eochu Muighmheadhon. The picture labelled chart 7, explains this perfectly.
Whilst the Quinn is derived from the `Dal Cuinn' (`Branch of Conn') refers those who were descended from Conn Ceadchathach. Simply put many Irish have the same gene sequence as Niall No'ghiallach, because they all share the same common male ancestor as Niall No'ghiallach, this common ancestor being Eireamhoin, son of Golamh.
HOWEVER, whilst Niall No'ghiallach's father was a Milesian Gael, his mother was Cairenn Chasdubh, daughter of Sachell Balb who was a Saxon. Prior to this the Milesian Gaels rose to power under Tuathal Teachtmhar, whose father was a Milesian Gael, but whose mother Eithne Imgel, was the daughter of a Northen British king (often seen as meaning Scotland, but could also mean what is now Northern England).
Tuathal Teachtmhar was descended from Ughaine Mor, who's wife came from Gaul. The Gaels claim decent from the Scythians and to reflect this called themselves 'Scots' derived from 'Scotia'. But the name 'Scotia' derives from a female ancestor, reflecting how until the time of Christ the Gaels would trace lineage through the female line.
The DNA evidence shows that the Milesean Gaels through the male line came from Spain, but were descended from Egyptians through the male line. If we hold to the claim that the Celts, Scythians, Saxons, etc. were all descended from lost tribes of Israel, then what we see time and time again, consistent with genetics, cultural, tradition, mythology, etc.is that the Gaels were of Egyptian descent on the male side, but Israelite descent on the female side.
The tradition of Niul, a Scythian Prince, taking a teaching job then marrying the daughter of an unknown Pharaoh is flawed, makes little sense and is inconsistent with the genetic evidence. But if it was reversed. Then what happens is that Niul becomes an Egyptian Prince, son of an unknown Pharaoh and concubine mother, who more likely for political reasons became married to a Scythian Princess then not only does it make more sense, but becomes far more consistent with the evidence. Whilst the version we're used to could be the result of errors in retelling or an intentional change, motivated by a desire to show descent from Adam and Eve through the male line. Which couldn't be possible through an unknown pharaoh.
Yours Cliff
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5. New Article. Through Judah
We Live because of Religious Jews!
Hasidic Homily Teaches a Universal Truth.
http://hebrewnations.com/articles/inme.html
The Bible may be interpreted in different ways. The Hebrew Language often lends itself tot his possibility.
In addition Rabbinical Commentators and teachers often used Biblical Phrases to put over a point or as Mnemonic (Memory-assistant) devices.
They were not necessarily saying that the teaching they derived was the primary meaning of the verse in question.
They were just using it to put over a point that needed to be expressed.
In Genesis 44:18 we have such a case.
The KJ renders this verse:
Then Judah came near unto him, and said, Oh my lord, let thy servant, I pray thee, speak a word in my lord's ears, and let not thine anger burn against thy servant: for thou art even as Pharaoh.
The expression we are dealing with is the Hebrew word "BI" (pronounced "be") which is translated here as "I pray thee"
Other Translations
http://biblehub.com/genesis/44-18.htm
renders it as,
"I pray thee", or as "please", or "please allow", or "let me", etc.
This word, "BI" may also be translated as "in me" or "through me"
In Genesis 22:16 it is translated as "by myself".
[Genesis 22:16] AND SAID, BY MYSELF HAVE I SWORN, SAITH THE LORD, FOR BECAUSE THOU HAST DONE THIS THING, AND HAST NOT WITHHELD THY SON, THINE ONLY SON:
The translation of this expression depends somewhat on the context and grammatical formation of its usage.
At all events, in Genesis 44:18, it may be translated as "through me", "because of me".
Judah says to Joseph "Through me my lord". In Hebrew it could be rendered as "through me you are my lord".
We saw:
Joseph in the Eyes of the "Rebbe" . Joseph Needs Judah!
http://www.britam.org/sefatemet.html#Needs
Year 5 643
Judah said to Joseph. "OH MY LORD, LET THY SERVANT, I PRAY THEE" [Genesis 44:18]. The expression I PRAY THEE in Hebrew is "Bi Adoni" which literally means "Please, My Lord". In Hebrew the word "Bi" translated as "please" can also mean "in me". The "Sfat Emet" links the expression "in me" to "My Lord". He says that Judah was hinting to Joseph that his power of overlordship was "in me" i.e. in Judah. In other words Joseph was able to rule by virtue of the exertions of Judah.
These days within the Land of Israel there exist internal struggles amongst the Jews.
Many Ultra-Orthodox Jews do not serve in the Army. Instead they learn Torah in Yeshivot.
One of several justifications for this is that most Jews do not learn Torah. Somebody has to.
Those who do are doing it on behalf of those who do not even though all should do it.
Even if everyone in the Army did learn Torah we would still want those in the Yeshivot to be exempt from army service BUT this is not the case.
Those who learn serve the nation at the highest possibly level.
Through learning the Torah the Jews survives and the State of Israel is better off than it otherwise would be.
Joseph may be taken as representative of different expressions all of which are pertinent.
Joseph represents the Ten Tribes who do not know their ancestry.
Joseph can also represent righteous Gentiles in general who become powerful.
Joseph represents the assimilated Jew who does good for humanity on the whole.
Joseph can also symbolize any Jew who does other than learn Torah yet still does good for others.
Judah represents the Jewish People as against the Ten Tribes.
On a closer level,
Judah symbolizes the Jew who learns Torah and keeps the Commandments.
At a spiriutal levels,
what JOSEPH achieves is by virtue of Judah.
This was the message of Judah to Joseph.
There is something in this.