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Ten Tribes Studies (31 March, 2014, 29 Adar-2, 5774)

Contents:

1. Pleased with Brit-Am Answers
2. Larry: Encouragement.
3. Answers to Comment and Question.
(a) Angle equals Aegel also in original Sephardic Hebrew pronunciation!
(b) Rashi on Isaiah 12: Ephraim will defeat the Forces of Islam (Ishmael) and inherit their Lands!

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1. Pleased with Brit-Am Answers
Re: Brit-Am Now no. 2242. Ten Tribes Studies
#3. Question About Unification of the Lost Tribes   with Judah [and Religious Matters]

Yair,
  I am impressed with your clear, consistent, and honest replies as you know them to be as to who we all are,where we all are and where we all are moving towards as in your reply to Lyne Tracy.
thanks.
Tom.

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2. Larry: Encouragement.
 Please keep up the work you're doing; its a fascinating subject and I think your research will become more and more relevant in the coming years as, in my opinion, Ezekiel 37 describes a future political alliance between the houses of Israel and Judah which, I believe, will be based on a widespread realization of their kinship -- which you have proven. 

Sincerely,

Larry

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3. Answers to Comment and Question.

(a) Angle equals Aegel also in original Sephardic Hebrew pronunciation!
(b) Rashi on Isaiah 12: Ephraim will defeat the Forces of Islam (Ishmael) and inherit their Lands!

John Hemingway wrote:

Hello Yair,
...  I thought you might be interested in the article by Leoni on the nasal-guttural pronunciation of ayin.  He has traced the nasal pronunciation down to the 1500s, and his research lends credence to your observation that Angels was possibly derived from Aegeli.  
As regards your citation of Rashni (ref: Brit-Am Now 386), I would like to ask where he says 'Aegel' was a nickname for Ephraim.

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Brit-Am Reply:

Shalom,
you brought up 2 matters, (a) the equation of Aegel (bull calf) and the word Angle; (b) Rashi affirming that Aegel was a nickname for Ephraim.
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(a) Aegel = Angle
 
Thank you for this source. It confirms the equation of Aegel (Bull-Calf) in Hebrew and the word Angle as in Anglo-Saxon

The Pronunciation of Hebrew in the Western Sephardic Settlements (XVIth-XXth Centuries). First Part: Early Modern Venice and Ferrara (1)
Aron di Leone LEONI .
SEFARAD. Revista de Estudios Hebraicos, Sefardes y de Oriente Proximo, Vol. 66: 1, enero-junio 2006, pags. 89-142, ISSN 0037-0894
 68:1, enero-junio 2008

The Pronunciation of Hebrew in the Western Sephardic Settlements (16th-20th Centuries). Second Part: The Pronunciation of the Consonant Ayin.
Aron di Leone Leoni. pags. 163-208, ISSN 0037-0894

Quote:
It is well known that before World War II, the ayin was pronounced in an identical way in the Portuguese community of Amsterdam and in all the Western Sephardic settlements, from Hamburg to London and from Bayonne to New York and Curaico lack of an analogous phoneme in the English language, the Western Sephardic pronunciation of the ayin was described as identical with the sound of the pair ng in the English word king.
End Quote.

What the author says about Sephardic pronunciation is also valid for the Ashkenazic one as we have noted in the past.
We may therefore quir\te safely assume that the the Biblical Hebrew pronounciation of AEGEL (bull-calf) was almost the same as how we would say Angle.
What is more the two terms (Angl and Aegel) were INTERCHANGEABLE in Northern Europe. It was assumed that Aegel was a diminutive of Angle but now we see that in effect the two words were just alternative ways of uttering the same Hebrew word.
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(b) Ephraim is the Bull-Calf (Aegel)

 In the past I quoted Rashi on Jeremiah 31:10 as saying that Aegel (bull-calf) was a nickname for Ephraim BUT this was a mistake. The source is Rashi on Isaiah 27:10 where Rashi also quotes Jeremiah 31:10 as supportive evidence. Rashi takes the equation of Ep[hraim  with Aegel in Jeremiah 31:10 as self-evident!

Jeremiah 31:
18 Indeed I heard Ephraim pleading:
You disciplined me, and I took the discipline;
   I was like a bull-calf [Hebrew: aegel] untrained.
Bring me back, let me come back,
   for you are the Lord my God.

Isaiah 27:
10 For the fortified city is solitary,
   a habitation deserted and forsaken, like the wilderness;
there does the bull-calf [Hebrew: aegel]  graze,
   there lie down, and devour all its branches.

Comments Rashi: Aegel. Ephraim will inherit it for he is called an aegel [bull-calf], as it says, "like a bull-calf [Hebrew: aegel] untrained" (Jeremiah 31:18).
Rashi appears to understand Isaiah in this section as predicting that EPHRAIM will defeat and inherit the forces of Ishmael who are usually understood to represent the Arabs and Islam.
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