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Brit-Am Research Sources (24 June, 2014, 26 Sivan, 5774)

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Contents:
1. The Late Nineteenth Century Plan to Settle Welsh Colonists in Palestine
2. The Dana came from Dan not from Ana!
3. Danites. Need for Archaeological and Other Evidence?
4. Historian Robert Graves also saw Levantine Origins for the Irish
5. Ancient World Links. Some points of interest culled from:
The Key by John Philip Cohane, USA, 1975.

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1. The Late Nineteenth Century Plan to Settle Welsh Colonists in Palestine

The source below refers to a plan to bring Welsh settlers to Palestine. At that time (before World War 1) the Land was ruled by the Ottoman Turks.
The plan involved the Hejaz Railway which was suggested in 1864, began in 1900, and completed in 1908 (when the railway reached Medina in Arabia) or 1913 when the
the Hejaz Railway Station was opened in central Damascus as the starting point of the line.
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From: Mark Williams
Subject: Welsh in Palestine?
Apparently there was a plan for Welsh people to settle in Palestine (as it was known then) during the late Ottoman era. It's mentioned in passing in this article...
I'll see if I can dig anything else up
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Patagonia's Welsh settlement was 'cultural colonialism' says academic
Mar 30, 2013 00:01
By Darren Devine
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/patagonias-welsh-settlement-cultural-colonialism-2514111.

Extract:
In her [i.e. Swansea University's Dr Jasmine Donahaye] preliminary research she also found Palestine appears to have been a more serious rival for the migration that eventually settled on Patagonia than previously believed.

She says discussions took place between the man championing Palestine, the Methodist minister John Mills and Ottoman empire representatives then controlling the region.

Mills also raised the possibility of Welsh immigrants working on the Hejaz railway, which was then being considered by the Ottomans as a way of connecting Constantinople to some of the most sacred sites in the Islamic world.

Creative writing lecturer Dr Donahaye, author of Whose People?, Wales, Israel Palestine, said: 'It's certainly not widely known that it [Palestine as the focus of the Welsh migration instead of Patagonia] was anything more than a passing fantasy.'

The academic, whose research on the migration was recently presented as a keynote lecture at a Celtic Studies conference in California, added: 'John Mills went on promoting the idea after the settlement was established in Patagonia and he may have been a lone voice at that point, but there was certainly considerable interest still in his proposal.'

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2. The Dana came from Dan not from Ana!

Dan and Judgement.avi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDYZxTbUTCs&google_comment_id=z12zzlkyuojvcbx4504ccr1rdxrffhwzpg0&google_view_type#gpluscomments
gian franco
i see the thread contains the usual 'tuatha de danaann 'mistranslation claim, even if the was the case it only proves the levant 'semitic' connection even harder as the godform 'ANU' is the sumerian 'sky god' ...so add a 'd' or take it away it matters little.
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Reply:
You are referring to the claim that the Tuatha de Danaan (Tribe of Dan) of Irish Mythology should really be known as the Tribe of Ana. This is not so.
Please do NOT make assertions and leave them in the air.
Either there a mistranslation or there was not.
All the sources we have seen show there was not.

The Tuatha de Danaan have a name meaning Tribe of Dan or Dana.

Some MODERN sources based on the presence of an Indo-European form Ana and the place-name Ana sometimes appearing in Ireland have claimed that the Tribe of Dana should really have been read as the Tribe of Ana.
Now you have related it to the Ancient Mesopotamian deity Anu.
There is however no evidence for any of this.
It would appear to be academic bluff with ideological overtones.

We have discussed this elsewhere see:
Emain Macha. Answers to an Irishman
http://hebrewnations.com/articles/myth/irish/irate/irish.html

Extract:
A mistake had been made, you say: Ana had been read as Dana, and henceforth everyone else repeated the mistake. The Book of Leinster came along and corrected it. What exactly the Book of Leinster says on the subject is not clear since a direct quotation has not been given.
You said:
# But an error made in the 10th century linked both together and merged them into one. An error which was corrected in the Book of Leinster, but failed to correct the error among others scribes. #
To even tentatively accept the claim that a mistake had been made and Ana changed to Dana we would need to see the form Ana used in a manuscript prior to it becoming Dana. We do not find this.

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3. Danites. Need for Archaeological and Other Evidence?
Dan and Judgement.avi This video is public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDYZxTbUTCs&google_comment_id=z12zzlkyuojvcbx4504ccr1rdxrffhwzpg0&google_view_type#gpluscomments
Yve Clark
Archaeological evidence? None we have found. Linguistic evidence? None that holds water. Why did these people supposedly Danites worship false gods and eat pig? How does that "uplift" the nations? It does not and shows that this is just not true.
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Reply:
What kind of archaeological evidence do you require?
Similarities between the Ancient Irish and the Celts in general with the Middle East are numerous. This begins with the dolmens etc and continues all the way through tot he way the Celts stored their grain.

Linguistically Welsh and Irish contain many Hebrew and related Semitic words as well as strong similarities in grammatical structure etc.

As for worshipping false gods the Bible says that ALL the Ancient Israelties did that at some stage or other.

eating pig? Some non- religious secular Israelis in Kibbutzim etc do that today. Why should the Ten Tribes have not done so.
In fact amongst the Scottish we find an aversion to pig and forbidden foods and traditions that such taboos were also once known to the Irish.

Uplifting the nations?
You tell me.
Everything is relative.
On the whole the peoples we identify as Israelites have more concern for human rights and higher standards of humanity than other nations.
They also responsible for humanitarian values receiving some measure of recognition in most parts of the world.
I agree that this may be accompanied by much hypocrisy and wrong-doing but as we said it is all relative.
In my opinion the iri8sh have also in their own way contributed very much tot he advancement of humanity.
If you disagree we may discuss the matter at another time when I have more of it (i.e. time).

rose
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4. Historian Robert Graves also saw Levantine Origins for the Irish

Note the word Levant usually means the coastal areas of Palestine, Israel, Lebanon, and Syria.
Robert Graves is a well-known popular historian amongst whose works we find, The White Goddess: a Historical Grammar of Poetic Myth by (1948,1952, and 1961).

New comment on your video
Dan and Judgement.avi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDYZxTbUTCs&google_comment_id=z12zzlkyuojvcbx4504ccr1rdxrffhwzpg0&google_view_type#gpluscomments
gian franco
Peoples from the Levant came to the British Isles.
It is factual.
The Tuatha de Danaann in Ireland,read the white goddess by graves -its shown there pretty clearly

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5. Ancient World Links.

Some points of interest culled from:
The Key by John Philip Cohane, USA, 1975, p.158
source sent by Steve Mathe.

In the inner circle of upright stones at Stonehenge is a carved hilt dagger identical to those buried in the shaft graves of Mycenea but again unknown elsewhere in Europe.
on the same and adjacent stones are also found about thirty axe heads similar to those manufactured only in Ireland at that time.

large number of faience beads (manufactured in Greece and Egypt) in graves around Stonehenge and Avebury.

Irish passage graves at Knouth and New Grange (both on the Boyne River) closely resemble in a number of details those at Mycenea, as well as those on Crete, and in Spain and Portugal.

Viking type Scandinavian boats known from the stone age had Mediterranean prototypes.

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