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Ten Tribes Studies (21 December, 2012, Tevet 8, 5773)

Contents:
1. Two More sources that Edom will Repent and One that it will not.
2. New Article. Research Extracts-6.
3. Various Remarks by Yair: Being Chosen and Obligations; Information on Other Matters; Asking for Money.



1. Two More sources that Edom will Repent and One that it will not.
Re Brit-Am Now no. 1974: Ten Tribes Studies.
1. Question about Esau Repenting.

We were asked were we got the idea that Edom is destined to repent. In reply we gave one or two not very strong sources. Recently we have come across two more sources (in an email from  Shlomo Scheinman)  that had been posted out by us in the past but which we had forgotten about. Here it is:
Brit-Am Now"- 500
2. Questions on Cyrus, Good Gentiles, Talmud, Edom, Joseph, etc

From: Shlomo Scheinman
Quote:
 # ...because the midrash compares Edom to the chazir [swine] and in kohelet rabba
chapter 1  it is explained that it is called chazir because in the future it will
restore ="lehachazir" [i.e. the word for "swine" or "boar" has the same root
as the word for "return" or "restore] the greatness and the kingdom to its
owner.
... Rabbeinu Bachiya on leviticus/vayikra chapter 11 felt that Edom would
in the future help us rebuild the third Temple and that the forces in the
past that were harmful to us would return together with other forces to help and
support Israel... # End Quote.

Yair remarks:
This in a sense may also be considered a sign of Divine Providence.  We brought up a subject. We were then asked (by Fredrick Murphy) a question about what we had said but did not have much of an answer to it. A few days later while engaged in reviewing past posts we came across the one and only posting that had brought the subject up. and that we had forgotten about.
Even so these are Rabbinical Sources without a direct Biblical linkage and we usually try not  to rely exclusively on such evidence.

Other Rabbinical Sources say the opposite, i.e. that every other nation will repent and be forgiven except for Edom, see below:

Aspeklaria (Hebrew)
# And the swine (chazir). This is Edom. And why is his name Chazir, because he returns the crown to its owners , as its says 
Obadiah 1:
21 Then saviors[e] shall come to Mount Zion
To judge the mountains of Esau,
And the kingdom shall be the Lord's (VaYikra Raba 99;34)

Midrash Rabah Parshat Terumah (Exodus 25): 35:
...But iron is not mentioned here [in the statue of Daniel 3 representing the different historical empires], neither was iron used in the Tabernacle, nor in the Temple. Why is this? Because it represents [The Kingdom of] Edom who destroyed the Temple. We learn fromt his that int he future God will receive a placatory gift from every nation, apart from Edom... as it says,
#  Remember, O Lord, against the sons of Edom, The day of Jerusalem, Who said, '[Raze it, raze it, To its very foundation!' # (Psalm 137:7).
Midrash Rabah (Hebrew)


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2. New Article. Research Extracts-6
Research Sources from Brit-Am Now nos. 451-500
Contents:
Bob Davis: Extant of British Empire
Andrew Martin: Israelite Victories
Iben Ezra: England and Edge of the Earth
Winston Churchill on Heredity
Chinese scholar traces Israelites and Esau to China
Israelites from Issachar in Troy?
Rochelle I. Altman:  Phoenicians in Britain. Evidence from Scripts
Does The Name Ireland mean "Hebrew"?
The Passing of a Scholar (H. L. HOEH)
Zaharias P. THUNDY : Visigoths in England. Mercia
Bob Davis: Mercia in Spain as well as England?
Sparta from Edom and therefore Brothers to Israel?
The Coming of the White Man to North America. Corn in Africa and Population Explosion
William Rasmussen: Manasses Battle named by South, Bull Run by North
Edomite Homo Characteristics of Sparta. Lacedomonian Admixture
Steve Coneglan: Geometrical Points about the Union Jack
America = Ami & reuchma ?
Americans nicknamed "Amis" (i.e. Plural of "Ami")
Isacon Father of Brittus (Britain) and Albanus (Scotland)
David Faux: Steppe Peoples Migrated to Scandinavia after ca. 400 CE
Cyrus and American Presidents
Air-Travel Prophesied by Isaiah in Return of the Tribes.  Assyria in Ashkenaz (Germany)? Tarshish and the US Dollar Sign.
Edom Returns; Sources
Early British Contacts with Carthage
Athol Bloomer : Spanish Marrano Black Irish
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3. Various Remarks by Yair.
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Being Chosen and Obligations.
* We bring proofs and claims of Israelite Ancestry to  those who otherwise would consider themselves, and be considered by others, as non-Israelites.
Just because we say something does not make it so. It does however lend weight to the matter since we also provide evidence of not inconsiderable importance.
Those who are chosen should realize just that. They are chosen. This is not a small thing. It implies certain obligations and a change in orientation.
On the religious plane we cannot provide much direction since we are not qualified to do so. The answer to such questions has not been revealed to us.
We do however understand that an enhancing of Biblical consciousness is in order and that the Almighty will guide all who turn to HIM.
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Information on Other Matters.
* We also on occasion bring information and points of view of value on other matters.
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Asking for Money.
* We ask for money quite often. So do many others in similar fields. Those who do not often have funds from elsewhere. Our requests for funds sometimes lower the esteem we might otherwise be held in. This is inevitable. There are those few who preach or work for a cause who are capable of trusting in Divine Providence and not ask for anything. This may work for them. We however did not choose this path but rather forces beyond us directed us to it. There is a reason for all this. By giving money those who give express their identification with what we say. Money is life. By helping us with funds those who give have transferred something of themselves into our care to work with
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