Findings of a Creationist Scientist on Race and Brit-Am DNA Understanding
Contents:
1. Brit-Am Understanding of DNA.
2. Differences in DNA Variation
3. Modern Science versus Jeanson
4. The Brit-Am Understanding and Dr. Jeanson.
5. Dr. Nathaniel T. Jeanson. Quotations from a Creationist Scientist on Race and DNA.
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1. Brit-Am Understanding of DNA.
Dr. Nathaniel T. Jeanson is a Creationist scientist. He has published books, and authored articles. He also has numerous lengthy Video Clips and Interviews on YouTube. Overall he claims that DNA changes occur much more frequently and quickly than is supposed. Jeanson takes conventional DNA scientific findings and simply condenses the time span they occured in. This is a linear Aristotlean approach that is logical and often automatically accepted. The problem is that reality also includes sudden unexpected, and sometimes unexpectable, occurences. A more reliable philiosophy is probably that of John Locke (1603-1704). Locke was an English Philosopher of great importance who often quoted from the Hebrew Bible. His world-view emphasizes the importance of the unexpected.
Jeanson appears to be a closet anti-Semite. See: The Jeanson Hoax.
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2. Differences in DNA Variation
A single village in Africa contains more DNA variation than all of Europe.
A single village of the San People (Bushmen) in South Africa contains more DNA variation than all the rest of the world.
It would seem that climate, heat, and other factors influence DNA changes and that every place and every people changes at a different rate.
Changes in DNA can happen to many people in certain areas at one and the same time. This may due to sudden cataclysmic changes or to other factors.
The Y Chromosome
The Y Chromosome is transmitted by the Male. It helps us distinguish one racial grouping from another.
We have:
Haplogroup A
Haplogroup B
Haplogroup D
Haplogroup E
Haplogroup C
Haplogroup G
Haplogroup H
Haplogroup I
Haplogroup J
Haplogroup L
Haplogroup T
Haplogroup N
Haplogroup O
Haplogroup S
Haplogroup M
Haplogroup Q
Haplogroup R
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3. Modern Science versus Jeanson
The Y chromosome acts like a clock - the more differences (mutations) there are the further away was the ancestral link.
Modern Science traces original ADAM back to 200,000 years.
Conventionally the rate of copy errors gives us chronology of the age of haplotypes and how long ago one group separated from the other. The rate of mutations is slow. Estimates made by scientists are based on low quality DNA. Dr. Jeanson says that Alternate study on high quality DNA shows a much higher rate of copying errors, meaning that the changes are shown to happen much more quickly.
Why do the experts therefore now use rates obtained from high quality DNA? According to Dr. Jeanson it is because they cannot deal with the results.
The Experts filter out high - quality DNA results because they do not meet their expectations BUT it does meet the Biblical Time-Table. The DNA Rate of change using high quality DNA takes us back to the Time of the Flood 4,500 years ago.
Jeanson claims that in every generation there is a "click" i.e. a minor change in DNA allowing him to walk back to the beginning. By comparing differences from one group to another he can estimate the difference in generations between them.
Jeanson in effect accepts conventional DNA science and its calculations but simply speeds it up.
4. The Brit-Am Understanding and Dr. Jeanson.
The Brit-Am understanding is that in addition to this the periodic TRAUMATIC effect of environmental changes need to be considered. These are not ongoing constant effects but they take place and make changes.
Genetic Studies describe phenomena attributed to Transposable elements and Horizontal Gene Transfer. In other words genetic changes can happen NOT DUE TO HEREDITY but after being received they are transmitted by heredity. Horizontal Gene Transfer is widely known and is described in the Literature. It simply has not been applied (publically) to YHaplogroup (Racial) Studies BUT that is what is needed to understand what takes place!
See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_gene_transfer
We feel that the findings of JEANSON should be combined with a study of YHaplogroup Horizontal Gene Transfer.
See Also:
Stephen Phillips: Gene Movements
https://hebrewnations.com/articles/guest/phillipsgenes.html
At all events below are a series of quotation culled from articles Dr. Jeanson posted on the web. Some of them are followed by Brit-Am Comments. This is worth looking over.
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5. Dr. Nathaniel T. Jeanson. Quotations from a Creationist Scientist on Race and DNA.
with Brit-Am Commentary
https://hebrewnations.com/articles/race/jeanson1.html
Extracts:
... the physical features that define race and ethnicity can be transformed in four to five generations. Like so many people of Western European descent.
In Africa, the majority of sub-Saharan Africans might connect to . . . ancient Egypt.
Genetics indicates that today's Native Americans were not the first.
Native Americans broke away from the family trees in Central Asia at least twice, once in the AD 300s to 600s and again around AD 1000. In other words, today's Native Americans are descendants of at least two groups of migrants from Central Asia ...
.... some light-skinned Scandinavians are descendants of olive-skinned Arabs who ruled the Middle East in the Middle Ages. These Arab ancestors were themselves descended from dark-skinned Nubians (i.e., the ancient Sudanese). And these dark-skinned Nubians were connected to ancient Egypt.
... the majority of Europeans, and the ancestors to today's Americans arrived in Europe from Central Asia during the Middle Ages.
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Brit-Am Comment:
The remarks about the Amerindians have been made by others many times in the past, e.g. Ethel G. Stewart, "The Dene and Na-Dene Indian Migration 1233 A.D.", (1991), who wrote about the northern Na-Dene Amerindian peoples being late-comers expelled from Northern China and Mongolia. The Na-Dene are now found in Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba, Northwest Territories, Nunavut, Saskatchewan, Yukon, Alaska, parts of Oregon, northern California, and the American Southwest as far as northern Mexico, including Apache and Navajo.
Jeanson frequently claims that some white peoples are of colored origin. He claims for instance that most Englishmen are descendants of black slaves who were brought there in recent times (700 CE to 1860s CE).
It may happen that some colored people moving to colder climates change their color but only when they arrive as minorities. Other wise we would know more about it from historical illustrations and popular tradition.
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Ancient Egyptians & Human DNA's Big Surprise
Differences in the YChromosome occur from father to son and then from son to grandson. By counting the number of differences we can calculate how distaint one person is from another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6h4HkmSN30
Expansion of E1b1b attributed to spread of Arab Islamic Conquests. E1b1b found at 40% in Egyptian males and in Somalia at ca. 80%. Also prominent in North Africa, Arabia, and Southern Europe. Jeanson proposes it originated in the Arabian Peninsula after 600s CE.
E1b1ba - Black Africa - 60% of African-American males are E1b1ba. Bantu - Oral Traditions speak of a recent spread (within last 500 years) of Bantu. This fits with the Revised Times-Scale of Dr. Jeanson, ergo Bantu Spread from West Africa after 1400s.
E1b1b and E1b1ba both associated with Ancient Egyptians.
R1 descended from Joktan of Shem.
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Brit-Am Comment:
The recent spread of the Bantu is also known and was the accepted history until about 100 years ago, as Jeanson himself notes.
We doubt however that they had Ethiopian or Egyptian origins.
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New History Of Humanity 1 The World Is Smaller Than We All Think - Nathaniel Jeanson
Genetically European nationalities disappeared within a few hundred years.
Black White people exist.
400 BCE Northern Europe mostly empty. Africa, Americas, etc, mostly empty. see Map.
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New History Of Humanity 2 The British are French & the French are British - Nathaniel Jeanson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RwwigrSj1s
The whole world is intermixed. Racial Change can happen quickly. A 6000 year span of history is the only way to explain spread racial movement and interconnections.
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New History Of Humanity 3 Ancient Persians Black - Nathaniel Jeanson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ncIiesa7Vc
Carvings of Ancient Persians indicate African connections, curly hair, etc.
Modern Iranians similar to Mediterranean peoples. Intermixing creates the possibility of numerous different Combinations and recombinations.
R1b found in Asia and Africa but mostly in Western Europe.
Traces R1b to Mongoloid Huns in recent times.
R1a branches all originated in lasted few centuries. Central Asia and India. Linguistic connection of India and Europe.
R1b and Q (Amerindians) are closely related and both originate in Central Asia.
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How to silently take over a country? (Part 4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK9ZDMV_F8s
Slavery from Africa to Europe1500s to 1860s used in fields, plantations, etc.
Claims that from 600s to 1900s ca. 11 million Africans taken for cultural slavery and concubinage to Muslim World including Spain and Portugal.
Unnoticed greater reproductive rate of light-skinned people descended from black peoples.
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What Makes a Race? with Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson (Part 4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv2ALUnUjQQ
E1b1b has members al over the world, mainly in Africa but also in Scandinavia. traces its spread in Europe to the Muslim Turks and Arabs, traces them to Egyptians and Nubians and the descendants of Ham son of Noah.
Polynesians from East Asia.
Melanesians from Africa. Physical similarities show racial connections.
SKM (Melanesians) look similar to African E1b1a but are not so. Melanesians from Shem, Africans from Ham. Polynesians (Maoris) haplogroup C who look like East Asians from Ham, see Map.
Counterintuitive conclusions - Answer lies in genetic distance along with intermixtures.
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Brit-Am Comment:
Our impression is that most or all black peoples including New Melanesians are linked to Africa.
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Secret to human history (Part 5)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WcM-uQdErg
Three Mitochrondrial (Female-transmitted) divisiosn parallel three wives of the Sons of Noah.
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Brit-Am Comment:
This is worth looking into.
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Did We Miss Key Clues from the Bible about Human History?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvyUjAmsIWs
Episode 1. History of People. We are all inter-related. The World is smaller than we think.
Episode 2. Continuation of Episode 1.
Episodes 3 and 4. Ethnic Changes. Racial Changes from one ethnicity to another can happen quickly. ca. 200 years to change from one race to another.
Episodes 5 and 6. Biblical Time Scale for Ethnic Change on Y chromosome. Lost relatives of Europeans in India and Mongolia. Theoretically possible that most of Europe is of African descent.
Episode 11: Early Amerindians different from Later Ones.
Episode 17: Vikings. Black Death?
Episode 18. Jews. Claims that the dominant lineage among the Jews is probably not Jewish in origin.
Episode 19. Black Africans from Ancient Egyptians.
Episode 20. Seven Cs of History.
Present Y Chromosome comes from Noah and his family.
Tower of Babel Scattering linguistic and Ethnic.
Three wives of Sons of Noah . Mitrochondria (female) DNA. Some Overlap Linguistically with Mitrochrondria.
Ancient Israelites intermixed with other peoples including Canaanites.
Flood 2500 BCE. Lineages diversify around the globe in ca. 1200 BCE, Babel event?
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Secret to human history (Part 5)
Geneticists recognize three major groupings in mtDNA.
Germans from Persians, Greeks, Egyptians.
Neanderthals - survivor of ancient catastrophes.
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Smoking gun of human history (Part 6)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yTESdLBPOY
Genetic studies mitochondria DNA (transmitted from mother to daughter) Eve lived just 6,000 years ago.
Y chromosome acts like a clock - the more difference the further away was the ancestral link.
Modern Science traces original ADAM back to 200,000 years.
Rate of copy errors gives chronology, rate of mutations are slow. Based on low quality DNA. Alternate study on high quality DNA shows much higher rate of copying errors,
Experts filtered out high - quality DNA results because it did not meet their expectations BUT it does meet the Biblical Time-Table. Rate fits Time of the Flood 4,500 years ago.
Jeanson claims that in every generations there is a "click" i.e. a minor change in DNA allowing him to walk back to the beginning. By comparing differences from one group to another he can estimate the difference in generations between them.
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The Lost Relatives of Europe (Part 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22t_RiMTGiU
1000 Genome Projects of 1990.
British Raj in India 1600 (East India Company), 1858-1947. Small differences in birth rate have a cumulative effect and enable one thnic group to take over a country from another. Most Europeans are of relatively recent African descent.
All Indian ethnicities come together in 1500s.
All four European (Spanish, Finnish, British, Italians) ethnicities come together in 1500s. Differentiation occurred subsequently.
Ethnic Links between Indians and British.
Increased recent population growth has caused ethnic differences to be exaggerated.
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Brit-Am Comment:
Many Indians are R1a which is dominant in Russia and Eastern Europe. The British are mainly R1b which is different.
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How many people are of Mongol descent (and don't know it)? Part 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh4DI7ZnohI
The Mongols conquered China, the Middle East, and Eastern Europe in the 1200s, this created the world's largest empire. Many Europeans of Mongol descent even though it does show in their appearance.
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Brit-Am Comment:
Jeanson needs more evidence for most of his claims.
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Mysteries of the Ancient Pacific, Aboriginal Australia, and Early America (Part 16)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsKo9wI0eW4
Madagasgar linguistic connections to East Asia.
Australia and Papua/New Guinea were settled first.
Ca 800 BCE 2nd wave of new migrations from Africa to Australia/'New Guinea ,Siberia, India, Andaman, Japan (1/3 of population), Philippines. Groups C and D.
Ancient Lineages, all dark skinned. all exist at a similar latitude. Association with Olmecs? African? Maya ca. 150 BCE were more Asian looking.
Present Amerindians reached Americas from Central Asia after ca. 600 CE.
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What Happened to the Vikings? (Part 17)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exoutIvF6wU
Americas re-settled before Columbus, Black-White people, Asian origins of most Europeans.
Claims most (ca. 60%) Europeans from Asia.
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Can we identify the Jews genetically? (Part 18)
46.1 % of Cohens carry the Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH) belonging to a single paternal lineage J-P58#.
J-P58# found at under 20% of Jews in general.
CMH also found in Bedouins, Yemenis (67%), Jordanians (55%),
85% of European Cohens belong to J,.
Middle East Origins. Centered on Jews.
Conventional Dates originated pre 1000 BCE..
Jeanson YChromosome clock Revised date 1400s to 1800s CE.
In 1400s 90% of lineages in Europe collapsed.
Persecutions and Holocaust meant lose of lineages among Jews and less ethnic diversity among Jews.
J found in Europe, South Asia, and India
Clusters of J separate between east and west in 700 -1400 CE
Suggested that Islamic Ottoman Empire responsible for spread of J including among the Jews.
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Brit-Am Comment:
This is not correct. It is an expression of Replacement Theology. Jeanson is a Christian Fundamentalist of the old type.
The Cohen Gene (CMH) does not really exist. What does exist is a collection of Genetic Types similar to each other, found mainly among Jewish Cohens (and not elsewhere) and belonging to both J1 and J2 haplotypes.
This in effect proves that in addition to heredity OTHER FACTORS determine Haplotype DNA, environment, diet, solar radiation, etc.
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The Shocking and Glorious New Science of Human 'Race' & Ethnicity
by Dr. Nathaniel T. Jeanson on June 16, 2020
https://answersingenesis.org/genetics/shocking-and-glorious-new-science-human-race-ethnicity/
.... the physical features that define race and ethnicity can be transformed in four to five generations. Like so many people of Western European descent, it now appears that my heritage traces through Europe back to Central Asia around A.D. 1000.
.... the majority of Europeans, both western and eastern, have recent Central Asian ancestry. Some have African ancestry, and don't know it. Only a minority are indigenous Europeans.
In Africa, the majority of sub-Saharan Africans might connect to . . . ancient Egypt. The research is still at an early stage and will change as more results come in, but these sorts of surprising links are appearing with increasing frequency. Even some Europeans might connect to this famous and spectacular ancient civilization.
Native Americans have also undergone an ethnic transformation. Genetics indicates that today's Native Americans were not the first. The earliest Americans have not yet been identified; their ethnicity remains to be uncovered by future genetic investigations.
Evidence for a Human Y Chromosome Molecular Clock: Pedigree-Based Mutation Rates Suggest a 4,500-Year History for Human Paternal Inheritance
https://answersresearchjournal.org/evidence-y-chromosome-molecular-clock/
by Dr. Nathaniel T. Jeanson and Ashley D. Holland, Published on December 4, 2019
.... multiple studies over the last two decades have revealed an average mtDNA mutation rate that explains global human mtDNA differences within 6,000 years
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Traced: Human DNA's Big Surprise
Secrets of the New Rosetta Stone
by Dr. Nathaniel T. Jeanson on March 22, 2022
https://answersingenesis.org/human-evolution/origins/traced-human-dnas-big-surprise/
This DNA-based tree reveals that the family tree of today's Native Americans broke away from the family trees in Central Asia at least twice, once in the AD 300s to 600s and again around AD 1000. In other words, today's Native Americans are descendants of at least two groups of migrants from Central Asia: One group arrived in the centuries after Christ, another about a millennium after Christ.
Mayan origins trace back to the 400s BC, and the Olmecs go back even farther, they birthed a cradle of civilization. Yet we don't find a genealogical heritage this ancient among modern Native Americans. It seems that the people who arrived in the AD 300s to 600s, and again around AD 1000, replaced whoever was here first.
Basic genetics has long taught us that change from one set of physical features (commonly called 'racial' features) to another can happen in just a few generations. In theory, the 'races' could have changed multiple times in human history. The DNA-based tree reveals that they did.
For example, some light-skinned Scandinavians are descendants of olive-skinned Arabs who ruled the Middle East in the Middle Ages. These Arab ancestors were themselves descended from dark-skinned Nubians (i.e., the ancient Sudanese). And these dark-skinned Nubians were connected to ancient Egypt.
As another example, some dark-skinned sub-Saharan Africans had olive-skinned Central Asian ancestors who overthrew the Roman empire in the AD 400s.
My model suggests that the history of civilization can be read off of the nuclear DNA differences [i.e., the DNA in a specific part of our cells] among the peoples of the globe, and on a timescale consistent with the YEC [young-earth creation] model. The Y chromosome differences [i.e., DNA differences in male-inherited DNA] among modern humans represent, in theory, the first type of nuclear DNA signature of the history of civilization.
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The Best-Kept Secrets of DNA
Creation science is quietly making groundbreaking discoveries.
by Dr. Nathaniel T. Jeanson on April 25, 2021
https://answersingenesis.org/genetics/best-kept-secrets-dna/
... the majority of Europeans, and the ancestors to today's Americans arrived in Europe from Central Asia during the Middle Ages.2 You could make the case that most Caucasian-Americans are, in a sense, Asian-Americans. They might not look Chinese, but DNA betrays the recent link.
African-Americans trace their ancestry to sub-Saharan Africa. The nasty history of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade makes this connection unavoidable. But deeper in history, in the centuries before the time of Christ, the major sub-Saharan African DNA lineage joined to what is now a North African one. Long story short, this genetic union intimates a historical link with ancient Egypt. Yes, dark-skinned African-Americans may have lighter-skinned Egyptians as their ancestors.3
Native Americans have seen their own history rewritten by DNA. Recent studies of the male-inherited DNA, the Y chromosome, indicate that today's Native Americans were not the first Americans. Today's indigenous Americans arrived in the Americas in the first several centuries A.D. They seem to have replaced whoever was here prior peoples like the Maya and the Olmecs.4
Thousands of species have formed within the last few thousand years, and DNA has uncovered how. We now know that the ancestors (kinds) to these species had massive speciation potential hard-coded into their DNA from the start. With such a large potential for biological change, it's no surprise that, for example, tigers, lions, cheetahs, and housecats all arose from a common ancestor in a short period of time.5 In fact, this hard-coded genetic potential is so great that species are still forming to this day.6